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Kareem: Duncan had a better career than Kobe
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Re: Kareem: Duncan had a better career than Kobe
Originally Posted by SAKOTXA
Reasoning... "I would say Tim Duncan had a better career because they won more consistently and didn't have to use Tim as much."
The guy just called a HOF player and a guy that had one of the most legendary runs in NBA history in 2011 a one trick pony. Great player, he did a lot for my Lakers, but it's easy to see why he's not respected around the league and specifically by the Lakers management. Old man has lost it.
It's just him being biased since Duncan is a big man who's quiet much like Kareem himself was. Duncan would be sitting on 3 rings if his teams relied on him as much as the Lakers relied on Kobe. You look at their careers and you see that Duncan's minutes started to drop during his prime years while Kobe was being forced to play 38-48 minutes a game at the age of 34 just so that his team could make the Playoffs because they were starting D-league scrubs and had no bench... Tim's fortunate to have Pop for his entire career and 2 HOFs he's played with for over half of his career, not to mention him getting a guy who already has a Finals MVP and the DPOY award + his team replacing Tiago Splitter with a 20/10 big who was regarded as a top 10/15 player the last few years...
Remember the good old days when Spurs fans were crying about how Kobe always had help and great teams , I'd love to see how successful Duncan would have been with the same rosters from 05-16.
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Re: Kareem: Duncan had a better career than Kobe
wtf? the reasoning is just bizarre. seriously.
duncan ist better because the spurs won more without relying on him?
thats just one of the worst arguments to put duncan above kobe i ever heard. in fact, this should be an argument to put duncan below kobe.
Last edited by pastis; 02-03-2016 at 08:51 AM.
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Lord Olajuwon
Re: Kareem: Duncan had a better career than Kobe
Originally Posted by pastis
wtf? the reasoning is just bizarre. seriously.
duncan ist better because the spurs won more without relying on him?
thats just one of the worst arguments to put duncan above kobe i ever heard. in fact, this should be an argument to put duncan below kobe.
This
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Re: Kareem: Duncan had a better career than Kobe
Originally Posted by pastis
wtf? the reasoning is just bizarre. seriously.
duncan ist better because the spurs won more without relying on him?
thats just one of the worst arguments to put duncan above kobe i ever heard. in fact, this should be an argument to put duncan below kobe.
Spurs success last 5 seasons doesn't erase how great Duncan was during his first 4 rings that accompanied with 3 FMVPs and 2 MVPs. Especially his 1999 and 2003 rings, when he had old D-Rob, later last season D-Rob, rookie Parker and sophomore Manu. Still better than Kobe at being a #1 option.
And yeah, Kareem's answer didnt make sense at all. Dude isn't as articulate as he's presented to be. Or maybe he's gotten really really old and out of touch.
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Re: Kareem: Duncan had a better career than Kobe
He's right.
Kobe's a more polarizing player tho
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Re: Kareem: Duncan had a better career than Kobe
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Re: Kareem: Duncan had a better career than Kobe
Originally Posted by ImKobe
Duncan is a better first option on offense than Kobe?
peak year being 25.5 ppg in 40.6 minutes a game, shooting 4-5% better than Kobe with over half of his shots being assisted for his career. Not to mention his mid-range shot never being as good as Kobe's despite him getting to catch and shoot wide open 10-16 ft jumpers while Kobe took fadeaways and still shot in the 43-51% range on those shots vs Duncan peaking at 45% (not even taking volume into account).
Someone should slap your silly ass. Look at their shooting numbers outside 3 ft of the basket
4 rings, 3 FMVP and 2 MVP > 2 rings, 2 FMVP and 1 MVP
You Kobetards been doing 5 rangz for the past 5 year why now all the sudden ya'll getting analytic and shit. Cuz you know damn well that "5 rangz" shit don't hold up anymore.
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Re: Kareem: Duncan had a better career than Kobe
Originally Posted by DMV2
4 rings, 3 FMVP and 2 MVP > 2 rings, 2 FMVP and 1 MVP
You Kobetards been doing 5 rangz for the past 5 year why now all the sudden ya'll getting analytic and shit. Cuz you know damn well that "5 rangz" shit don't hold up anymore.
Duncan has 5 rings, not 4.
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2nd Greatest Player
Re: Kareem: Duncan had a better career than Kobe
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Re: Kareem: Duncan had a better career than Kobe
Originally Posted by Wiltside
Duncan has 5 rings, not 4.
we were talking about as clearcut #1 option.
2014 Spurs didnt really have a #1 option guy.
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Re: Kareem: Duncan had a better career than Kobe
He is saying that Kobe wore out his body, and so stopped being a force in his later years. Duncan, because he was not relied on as much, remains a force even as an old man. This, in his opinion, Duncan has had the better career. Career takes into account effectiveness on a good team over a long period. I think the point is arguable, but what Kareem is saying makes sense. And it's not surprising, because it's probably how he evaluates his Laker years as well.
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Re: Kareem: Duncan had a better career than Kobe
Originally Posted by Lebron23
Water is Wet.
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Re: Kareem: Duncan had a better career than Kobe
Originally Posted by ImKobe
Duncan is a better first option on offense than Kobe?
peak year being 25.5 ppg in 40.6 minutes a game, shooting 4-5% better than Kobe with over half of his shots being assisted for his career. Not to mention his mid-range shot never being as good as Kobe's despite him getting to catch and shoot wide open 10-16 ft jumpers while Kobe took fadeaways and still shot in the 43-51% range on those shots vs Duncan peaking at 45% (not even taking volume into account).
Someone should slap your silly ass. Look at their shooting numbers outside 3 ft of the basket
Kobe shoots 41% for his career from mid-range. Where are you getting your numbers from? The best he ever shot from mid-range was 45% in '10.
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