Lebron vs. Durant - Analyzing every possession

[Grinder]

Second meeting: Lebron James (+51) defeats Kevin Durant (+18) by 33.


First meeting: Kevin Durant (+47) defeats Lebron James (+14.5) by 32.5.

Point system:

+3 bonus for any basket scored in the final 2 minutes of the game if the difference is ≤5 points
+2 for each foul drawn, blocked shot, steal on the other
+2 for forcing a missed shot on each other
+2 for taking a charge
+1 for each assist
+1 for any pass leading to free throws
+1 for each rebound/assist/steal/block on anyone else etc.
+1 for each point scored on anyone else
+1 bonus for scoring on each other
+1 for forcing a missed shot on anyone else
+0.5 for forcing a jump ball, saving a possession by diving for a loose ball, hustle plays, etc.
+0.5 for a screen leading to a made basket
-1 for getting scored on by anyone else
-1 for a shooting foul or foul in the opposing half
-1 for a missed shot
-2 for a turnover
-2 for a technical/flagrant foul

[Alamo]

[D-Wade316]

Better point system

[rodman91]

[Grinder]

Better point system

Thanks, that was a good read. I like that, but I want something without decimals that can be done live during the game. Using that scoring system would take hours and hours one the DVR going back and making sure you didn't miss anything.

[LBJDW305]

Its better to just watch them play and see who wins. Heat have 2 good defenders for durant. I'm guessing wade on Westbrook because chalmers will foul out in the first half trying to stop him. IMO these are the top 2 teams good showdown tonight

[Jotaro Durant]

damn nikka juss watch the game

[Jasi]

I'm leaning towards using the Lin vs. Rose one except maybe +1 for each assist rather than +2. Suggestions would be appreciated.

I'd use this one.

But here:

+3 bonus for any basket scored in the final 3 minutes of the game if the difference is ≤5 points

make it 24 seconds with a potential game winning or tying shot.

Also:

I want to objectively see who comes out on top in this individual matchup using a point system.

This point comparison is fun, but hardly objective, first of all because the +/- are discretional, second because stats are never objective, they only sum up things without saying anything about the context.

[chips93]

sounds cool

if you could put more of a weight on the scoring though

say, if lebron leaves durant to double somebody else, and lebron hits a jumper, against durant closing out, is that the same as say, lebron backing him down and scoring on him one-on-one

if you could take this into account it would be great, but that might get a bit complicated

[TheMarkMadsen]

damn nikka juss watch the game

They eye test > errything

[Jotaro Durant]

They eye test > errything

[Grinder]

I'd use this one.

But here:

make it 24 seconds with a potential game winning or tying shot.

Also:

This point comparison is fun, but hardly objective, first of all because the +/- are discretional, second because stats are never objective, they only sum up things without saying anything about the context.

Thanks for the input Jasi. I think 24 seconds is too little, I think I'll go with the last 1:30.

True, it'll never be completely objective, but you know what I mean.

sounds cool

if you could put more of a weight on the scoring though

say, if lebron leaves durant to double somebody else, and lebron hits a jumper, against durant closing out, is that the same as say, lebron backing him down and scoring on him one-on-one

if you could take this into account it would be great, but that might get a bit complicated

Thanks for the suggestion - this is more or less what I did last time. A late closeout only counts as scoring on the other player if it's a totally blown rotation. I'm thinking about adding a +1 for scoring on a double team though.

btw, do you really live in Ireland? I was just in Dublin a few weeks ago. Didn't seem like anyone really cared about basketball whatsoever.

[nathanjizzle]

doo it up man, youll notice how lebron will do great for 3 quarters and maybe a half. Even hitting crazy 3s to get the heat back in the game in the last 5 minutes. Then he will start passing the ball to wade.

[talkingconch]

doo it up man, youll notice how lebron will do great for 3 quarters and maybe a half. Even hitting crazy 3s to get the heat back in the game in the last 5 minutes. Then he will start passing the ball to wade.

[Grinder]

Should extra points be awarded for scoring on each other or just keep it the same through out?