ISH's #11 Player of Alltime

[DirtySanchez]

Oscar

LMAO Kobe at 10. The hate runs deep on these boards.

[inclinerator]

west

[Dbrog]

Oscar

LMAO Kobe at 10. The hate runs deep on these boards.

Kobe never had a playoff run as dominant as the guys above him. For that matter, he hasn't been as dominant as a few of the players who aren't even ranked yet.

Oscar is my pick this round. He literally did everything and carried some crappy teams in his day. I must say though...I can't fault anyone for choosing West. It's awfully close for me.

Side Note: Very strange to see Wilt separating Magic and Bird. Just doesn't make sense since Magic/Bird were basically completely equal in terms of greatness. Wilt should either be above both or below both.

[d.bball.guy]

Finally, I saw LeBricks name.

LeBron James

[colts19]

Big O

[hammer2010]

Oscar

[Fatal9]

Between KG, LeBron and West for me.

I'll go with KG.

[Collie]

Moses Malone.

[Jacks3]

Kobe never had a playoff run as dominant as the guys above him. For that matter, he hasn't been as dominant as a few of the players who aren't even ranked yet.

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[Jacks3]

Oscar

LMAO Kobe at 10. The hate runs deep on these boards.

+1

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe never had a playoff run as dominant as the guys above him. For that matter, he hasn't been as dominant as a few of the players who aren't even ranked yet.

Oscar is my pick this round. He literally did everything and carried some crappy teams in his day. I must say though...I can't fault anyone for choosing West. It's awfully close for me.

Side Note: Very strange to see Wilt separating Magic and Bird. Just doesn't make sense since Magic/Bird were basically completely equal in terms of greatness. Wilt should either be above both or below both.

2001 Playoffs
29.4 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 6.1 apg
33.3 ppg, 7 rpg, 7 apg in WCF
35 ppg, 9 rpg, 4.3 apg in WCSF

2008 Playoffs
30.1 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.6 apg

2009 Playoffs
30.2 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 5.5 apg
32.4 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 7.4 apg in Finals
34 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 5.8 apg in WCF
1 of 5 players in NBA history to average 30+ppg in a title run
2nd player in NBA history to average 32 ppg and 7 apg in a finals series

2010 Playoffs
29.2 ppg, 6 rpg, 5.5 apg
33.7 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 8.3 apg in WCF

3rd most playoff points alltime - 5,280
2nd most 30 point playoff games - 81

5 Championships
2 Finals MVPs
MVP
13 allstar teams
13 all nba teams
11 all defensive teams

Do I even need to mention his regular season dominance?

now tell me who is more dominant that that outside the top 10?

[Heavincent]

Kobe never had a playoff run as dominant as the guys above him. For that matter, he hasn't been as dominant as a few of the players who aren't even ranked yet.

[MasterDurant24]

West.

[Dbrog]

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Do I even need to mention his regular season dominance?

now tell me who is more dominant that that outside the top 10?

It's not dominant when:

In 2001, you're playing with disputably the most dominant force the game has ever seen.

In 2008, you get destroyed by the Celtics and shoot under 40% most games.

In 2010, you shoot awful for most of the playoffs (against the teams that actually play D) and get carried by your teammates.

The only year that you listed that I'd actually say Kobe was pretty dominant was 2009. However, it might have been a different story in the Finals if the Magic would've actually given the ball to Dwight.

Bottom line, I've definitely seen KG, Barkley, Wade, and Moses be more dominant in games than Kobe. Debatably Dirk, Rick Barry, West, Hondo, Dr. J, and David Robinson have been more dominant at points in time. Not saying any of these players are "more complete" or flat out "better" than Kobe, I'm just saying they have instances where they could be seen as more dominant (affecting the court more than Kobe).

Just FYI, Kobe @ 10 is exactly where I have him on my list and I wouldn't hate on people who have him as high as 7. However, Kobe's biggest problem is he just hasn't had those huge defining moments in the post-season (but his 81 is just ).

[Bernie Nips]

Oscar.