How does Greg Oden have more potential than Dwight Howard?

[Rockets(T-mac)]

Call me crazy but I think Dwight will be a better player when their careers are over.

It is a possiility, but Dwight needs to show that it is a possibility. He needs to take control of the paint on offense and become a leader, he just hasn't done this yet.l

[Da KO King]

It is a possiility, but Dwight needs to show that it is a possibility. He needs to take control of the paint on offense and become a leader, he just hasn't done this yet.l

Cause Oden has. :rollingeyes:

[dffsaf9]

Oden's 2 inches taller, he has better post moves, he can shoot free throws, he has nice touch around the basket, etc. He has actual skills... Dwight has athleticism and strength.

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[2LeTTeRS KD]

howard is IMO clearly better athlete, but he has no skill at all yet. although he isn't tim duncan, oden has potential to be way better offensive player. he'll be better man-to-man defender and better shot blocker IMO.

also, as someone already said, i agree that he seems to be really willing to learn and improve, and seems like he has decent bball IQ. howard does not.

Thats untrue Dwight is the better man defender if anything Oden's advantage will be in help D.

[boozehound]

Oden's 2 inches taller, he has better post moves, he can shoot free throws, he has nice touch around the basket, etc. He has actual skills... Dwight has athleticism and strength.

exactly, he already has better post moves than howard.

[RoseCity07]

People come up with a crappy counter argument no matter how good the other player is. Next I'm going to here that Mark Madsen is better than Tim Duncan because he is a hustle player.

[sunsfan1357]

Oden's offense was the weakest part of his game in college, yet judging from these posts I'd think he's Kevin McHale. People are just trying to remember his last game against Florida or something because Oden rarely got over 20 point in a game. Didn't he average something like 16 a game for the season?

[2LeTTeRS KD]

People come up with a crappy counter argument no matter how good the other player is. Next I'm going to here that Mark Madsen is better than Tim Duncan because he is a hustle player.

Man stop with the bull****. If Mark Madsen was a 21 year old all-star that averaged an unreal 18 and 12 as a 3rd year player and Tim Duncan was a prospect that people where calling the best thing since sliced bread when he has shown to have the same strenghts and weaknesses as Madsen while himself being just as raw as Madsen then your comparison would make sense. But since none of that applies please come back with better responses than that.

[boozehound]

Oden's offense was the weakest part of his game in college, yet judging from these posts I'd think he's Kevin McHale. People are just trying to remember his last game against Florida or something because Oden rarely got over 20 point in a game. Didn't he average something like 16 a game for the season?

do you forget hes playing with his offhand? and still shooting a reasonable % from the field and the line? I even saw him finish a scoop with his left. Howard dunks the ball like 70% of the time. Regardless of how raw Oden may be (and Ill admit he is pretty raw), Howard has no discernable skilled post moves.

[boozehound]

Serious question.

They are both around the same height and Dwight Howard can probably jump higher.

So why the hype surrounding Oden, what makes him head and shoulders potentially better than Dwight?

first off ( I failed to address this originally), how is oden getting hyped inn any way detracting from Dwight Howard's standing? What team (outside of HOu and MIA) wouldnt want him in their paint? Its not like hes in this draft and projected in the late lottery.

[RoseCity07]

Man stop with the bull****. If Mark Madsen was a 21 year old all-star that averaged an unreal 18 and 12 as a 3rd year player and Tim Duncan was a prospect that people where calling the best thing since sliced bread when he has shown to have the same strenghts and weaknesses as Madsen while himself being just as raw as Madsen then your comparison would make sense. But since none of that applies please come back with better responses than that.

Did Dwight Howard lead a college team all the way to the NCAA fnals? ...No. It's hard not to throw in the he did it with his left arm too. 15 ppg and your talking trash about his offense, Howard's career high in PPG is 17.

Greg Oden has won over 800 games and only lost 16, stupid not to think he is going to be a winner in the NBA. Dwight Howard is in the EAST and didn't do **** in the playoffs, out first round.

There is a reason no one compares Oden to Howard, and it's because he has done more than Howard did in his basketball career and even Howard is doing okay in the league.

[Da KO King]

....Greg Oden has won over 800 games and only lost 16, stupid not to think he is going to be a winner in the NBA. Dwight Howard is in the EAST and didn't do **** in the playoffs, out first round.

There is a reason no one compares Oden to Howard, and it's because he has done more than Howard did in his basketball career and even Howard is doing okay in the league.

Oh, and I'm sure you can find plenty of people to co-sign your implied theory that Ohio State would beat the Detroit Pistons in a seven game series. :rollingeyes:

When did being a really good college player become more career success than being an All Star?

[The Answer]

Did Dwight Howard lead a college team all the way to the NCAA finals?

Dude, Dwight went straight to the NBA. How can you hold that against him?

No. It's hard not to throw in the he did it with his left arm too. 15 ppg and your talking trash about his offense, Howard's career high in PPG is 17.

What do you expect from Oden next season? I bet his rookie numbers won't be any better than Dwights. Remember, Howard's only in his third season, and his numbers have gone up every year. Oh yeah, and 15 ppg, even with an injured wrist, against mostly mediocre college frontcourts < 18 ppg against NBA competition.

Greg Oden has won over 800 games and only lost 16, stupid not to think he is going to be a winner in the NBA. Dwight Howard is in the EAST and didn't do **** in the playoffs, out first round.

True they were out the first round, but the Magic's next best players were Jameer Nelson and an aging Grant Hill. Where do you think Oden would've been with that team? He certainly couldn't have got them past the Pistons.

There is a reason no one compares Oden to Howard, and it's because he has done more than Howard did in his basketball career and even Howard is doing okay in the league.

Oden hasn't done anything yet. I don't know what you're talking about.

[The Answer]

he does hes going 2 be the best blocker ever in the nba just watch and see

This is the type of blind, unrealistic hype that makes people think the two players don't have close maximum ceilings.

[Darius]

Good question.

I've always thought the most important thing for a big man is soft hands... Dwight seems to have mediocre hands while Oden catches everything.