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    Default If Player A can destroy Player B in 1-on-1, and also win more in 5-on-5, then

    aren't they the better player???..

    Accordingly:

    Players who are better than Bron based on superior ability to win 1-on-1 and 5-on-5:

    MJ
    Wilt
    Kobe
    Kareem
    Shaq
    Duncan
    Durant


    Did I miss anyone and who else would be at least arguable in both areas??... Kawhi?.. Russell?.. maybe Hakeem or prime Wade?

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    Default Re: If Player A can destroy Player B in 1-on-1, and also win more in 5-on-5, then

    What about this guy?


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    Default Re: If Player A can destroy Player B in 1-on-1, and also win more in 5-on-5, then

    all those guys aside from Kobe could do the same to Mj, so........

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    Default Re: If Player A can destroy Player B in 1-on-1, and also win more in 5-on-5, then

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98
    What about this guy?

    Isn

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    Default Re: If Player A can destroy Player B in 1-on-1, and also win more in 5-on-5, then

    Quote Originally Posted by sdot_thadon
    all those guys aside from Kobe could do the same to Mj, so........
    They won 6 rings?

    No, they didn't, so mj was better at 5-on-5

    And none of them could "destroy" MJ in 1-on-1, so ur wrong on all fronts.. what else is new..

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    Default Re: If Player A can destroy Player B in 1-on-1, and also win more in 5-on-5, then

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    They won 6 rings?

    No, they didn't, so mj was better at 5-on-5

    And none of them could "destroy" MJ in 1-on-1, so ur wrong on all fronts.. what else is new..
    all of those guys are centers. At an alltime great level. They absolutely destroy Mj. He wouldn't be able to stop a single score.

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    Default Re: If Player A can destroy Player B in 1-on-1, and also win more in 5-on-5, then

    Lebron weighs 250 lbs to MJ's 216. He also has 2 inches over him in height.

    MJ is slightly faster, and jumps slightly higher.

    LBJ is going to slash past him, post him up and shoot fadeaways. LBJ can straight up shoot jumpers in MJ's face.

    MJ can also shoot jumpers in LBJ's face.

    LBJ has done some notoriously filthy blocks.
    MJ hasn't.

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    Default Re: If Player A can destroy Player B in 1-on-1, and also win more in 5-on-5, then

    [QUOTE=RealSkipBayless]Isn

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    Default Re: If Player A can destroy Player B in 1-on-1, and also win more in 5-on-5, then

    b-b-but hangtime, chest to chest dunks and slow motion instant replay bro.

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    Default Re: If Player A can destroy Player B in 1-on-1, and also win more in 5-on-5, then

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98
    What about this guy?

    damn


    RIP, OP

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    Default Re: If Player A can destroy Player B in 1-on-1, and also win more in 5-on-5, then

    Quote Originally Posted by sdot_thadon

    All of those guys are all-time great centers - they absolutely destroy Mj. He wouldn't be able to stop a single score.
    ^^^ If only it was that simple

    1-on-1 among high level players depends on who gets the ball first, as 1-on-1 is make-it-take-it

    Ultimately, no one can stop anyone's go-to moves

    If MJ gets the ball first, or Shaq misses a jump hook, it's over - MJ will score 11 in a row

    So again, MJ wouldn't get "destroyed" by anyone in 1-on-1, and no one is beating his ability to win 5-on-5

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    Default Re: If Player A can destroy Player B in 1-on-1, and also win more in 5-on-5, then

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    ^^^ If only it was that simple

    1-on-1 among high level players depends on who gets the ball first, as 1-on-1 is make-it-take-it

    Ultimately, no one can stop anyone's go-to moves

    If MJ gets the ball first, or Shaq misses a jump hook, it's over - MJ will score 11 in a row

    So again, MJ wouldn't get "destroyed" by anyone in 1-on-1, and no one is beating his ability to win 5-on-5
    what makes you think Shaq would ever shoot a jump hook against Mj?

    What makes you think Bill Russell would give Mj any soft foul he'd call?

    What makes you think Mj would ever be within a foot of one of Kareem's skyhooks?

    What makes you think Mj could possibly do anything against Wilt in a 1 on 1 setting?

    Yes Mj could score but he's not getting any dunks vs. guys like that. They'd just swat him out of the sky, he'd have to pretty much rely on the jumper and it'd be significantly less efficient and effective than what those guys would do to him. Real world bro. No weak fouls, no 5 second back down rule. no 3 seconds.

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    Default Re: If Player A can destroy Player B in 1-on-1, and also win more in 5-on-5, then

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFERSON MONEY
    Lebron weighs 250 lbs to MJ's 216. He also has 2 inches over him in height.

    MJ is slightly faster, and jumps slightly higher.

    LBJ is going to slash past him, post him up and shoot fadeaways. LBJ can straight up shoot jumpers in MJ's face.

    MJ can also shoot jumpers in LBJ's face.

    LBJ has done some notoriously filthy blocks.
    MJ hasn't.
    Jordan's scoring frequency on lebron would be higher than vice versa

    Lebron has no post game and his post attempts would look clumsy and he'd miss a lot

    Anytime MJ got the ball, he'd score a bunch in a row in graceful fashion.. then lebron would clumsy it up for a bucket or 2... Rinse repeat

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    Default Re: If Player A can destroy Player B in 1-on-1, and also win more in 5-on-5, then

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    aren't they the better player???..

    Accordingly:

    Players who are better than Bron based on superior ability to win 1-on-1 and 5-on-5:

    MJ
    Wilt
    Kobe
    Kareem
    Shaq
    Duncan
    Durant


    Did I miss anyone and who else would be at least arguable in both areas??... Kawhi?.. Russell?.. maybe Hakeem or prime Wade?
    Another one.

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    Default Re: If Player A can destroy Player B in 1-on-1, and also win more in 5-on-5, then

    Quote Originally Posted by sdot_thadon
    what makes you think Shaq would ever shoot a jump hook against Mj?

    What makes you think Bill Russell would give Mj any soft foul he'd call?

    What makes you think Mj would ever be within a foot of one of Kareem's skyhooks?

    What makes you think Mj could possibly do anything against Wilt in a 1 on 1 setting?

    Yes Mj could score but he's not getting any dunks vs. guys like that. They'd just swat him out of the sky, he'd have to pretty much rely on the jumper and it'd be significantly less efficient and effective than what those guys would do to him. Real world bro. No weak fouls, no 5 second back down rule. no 3 seconds.
    Bigs can't guard mj's jumper or his drive.. you know that

    No one had more posters on bigs than MJ, but he wouldn't need it because he'd blow by them for easy layups and dunks

    No one had more crazy, hangtime finishes in traffic than MJ, but again, he'd be scoring on bigs easily and wouldn't need it

    It's not even close

    You sound like you never seen MJ, even on youtube
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