Lebron just won his 3rd MVP

[PJR]

Lebron is not the MVP.

Well I'm of the opinion that you shouldn't get a 3rd MVP until you show you
can win a title. The two guys that won there 3rd MVP before getting a title
(actually won the title that year) was Wilt in 1967 and Moses in 1983, but then again they were at least 7-8 games ahead of everyone else and had the best stats in the league that you really couldn't deny them.

Sorry, but this is some stupid rationale. The MVP is a regular season award, and the postseason has no bearing on it whatsoever.

[Deuce Bigalow]

This. He rated '04 Billups at 17 while '95 Hakeem at 31 in best of finals performances

Billups : 21 ppg 3.2 rpg 5.2 apg
Hakeem: 32.8 ppg 11.5 rpg 5.5 apg

He rates Nowitzki at 33, '05 Tim Duncan at 44, Shaq isn't even in first 7 performances.

Even trolls don't go that far.

Hollinger's list in order by PER

1. Dwyane Wade Mia 2006 - 33.8
2. Tim Duncan SA 2003 - 32.0
3. Michael Jordan Chi 1991 - 31.5
4. Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2002 - 31.4
5. Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2000 - 31.1
6. Michael Jordan Chi 1998 - - 30.8
7. Tim Duncan SA 1999 - 30.7
8. Dwyane Wade Mia 2011 - 30.2
9. Michael Jordan Chi 1997 - 29.5
10. Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2001 - 29.4
11. Michael Jordan, Chicago, 1992 - 29.2
12. KOBE BRYANT, LOS ANGELES, 2009 - 28.3
13. Magic Johnson, Los Angeles Lakers, 1987 - 28.2
14. MICHAEL JORDAN, CHICAGO, 1993 - 27.6
15. MAGIC JOHNSON, LOS ANGELES, 1988 - 27.5
16. KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR, L.A. LAKERS, 1980 - 27.3
17. Hakeem Olajuwon, Houston, 1994 - 27.1
ISIAH THOMAS, DETROIT, 1990 - 27.1
CHAUNCEY BILLUPS, DETROIT, 2004 - 27.1
20. KARL MALONE, UTAH, 1998 - 26.8
21. KOBE BRYANT, L.A. LAKERS, 2010 - 26.3
DAVID ROBINSON, SAN ANTONIO, 1999 - 26.3
23. CLYDE DREXLER, PORTLAND, 1990 - 26.0
MOSES MALONE, PHILADELPHIA, 1983 - 26.0
TONY PARKER, SAN ANTONIO, 2007 - 26.0
JOE DUMARS, DETROIT, 1989 - 26.0
27. SHAWN KEMP, SEATTLE, 1996 - 25.8
28. SHAQUILLE O'NEAL, L.A. LAKERS, 2004 - 25.7
29. PAU GASOL, LOS ANGELES, 2010 - 25.5
30. TIM DUNCAN, SAN ANTONIO, 2007 - 25.2
31. JULIUS ERVING, PHILADELPHIA, 1977 - 24.4
32. KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR, L.A. LAKERS, 1985 - 23.8
33. CHAUNCEY BILLUPS, DETROIT, 2005 - 23.7
MOSES MALONE, HOUSTON, 1981 - 23.5
35. MAGIC JOHNSON, L.A. LAKERS, 1980 - 23.3
BILL WALTON, PORTLAND, 1977 - 23.3
LATRELL SPREWELL, NEW YORK, 1999 - 23.3
38. MICHAEL JORDAN, CHICAGO, 1996 - 23.1
39. LARRY BIRD, BOSTON, 1984 - 23.0
CHARLES BARKELY, PHOENIX, 1993 - 22.5
41. LARRY BIRD, BOSTON, 1986 - 22.4
42. HAKEEM OLAJUWON, HOUSTON, 1995 - 22.2
43. TIM DUNCAN, SAN ANTONIO, 2005 - 21.8
44. SCOTTIE PIPPEN, CHICAGO, 1992 - 21.5
45. JULIUS ERVING, PHILADELPHIA, 1980 - 21.4
46. HAKEEM OLAJUWON, HOUSTON, 1986 - 21.2
47. ISIAH THOMAS, DETROIT, 1988 - 20.5
48. CEDRIC MAXWELL, BOSTON, 1981 - 20.4
49. DIRK NOWITZKI, DALLAS, 2011 - 20.1
50. BEN WALLACE, DETROIT, 2004 - 16.5

[LoneyROY7]

Hollinger's list in order by PER

1. Dwyane Wade Mia 2006 - 33.8
2. Tim Duncan SA 2003 - 32.0
3. Michael Jordan Chi 1991 - 31.5
4. Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2002 - 31.4
5. Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2000 - 31.1
6. Michael Jordan Chi 1998 - - 30.8
7. Tim Duncan SA 1999 - 30.7
8. Dwyane Wade Mia 2011 - 30.2
9. Michael Jordan Chi 1997 - 29.5
10. Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2001 - 29.4
11. Michael Jordan, Chicago, 1992 - 29.2
12. KOBE BRYANT, LOS ANGELES, 2009 - 28.3
13. Magic Johnson, Los Angeles Lakers, 1987 - 28.2
14. MICHAEL JORDAN, CHICAGO, 1993 - 27.6
15. MAGIC JOHNSON, LOS ANGELES, 1988 - 27.5
16. KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR, L.A. LAKERS, 1980 - 27.3
17. Hakeem Olajuwon, Houston, 1994 - 27.1
ISIAH THOMAS, DETROIT, 1990 - 27.1
CHAUNCEY BILLUPS, DETROIT, 2004 - 27.1
20. KARL MALONE, UTAH, 1998 - 26.8
21. KOBE BRYANT, L.A. LAKERS, 2010 - 26.3
DAVID ROBINSON, SAN ANTONIO, 1999 - 26.3
23. CLYDE DREXLER, PORTLAND, 1990 - 26.0
MOSES MALONE, PHILADELPHIA, 1983 - 26.0
TONY PARKER, SAN ANTONIO, 2007 - 26.0
JOE DUMARS, DETROIT, 1989 - 26.0
27. SHAWN KEMP, SEATTLE, 1996 - 25.8
28. SHAQUILLE O'NEAL, L.A. LAKERS, 2004 - 25.7
29. PAU GASOL, LOS ANGELES, 2010 - 25.5
30. TIM DUNCAN, SAN ANTONIO, 2007 - 25.2
31. JULIUS ERVING, PHILADELPHIA, 1977 - 24.4
32. KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR, L.A. LAKERS, 1985 - 23.8
33. CHAUNCEY BILLUPS, DETROIT, 2005 - 23.7
MOSES MALONE, HOUSTON, 1981 - 23.5
35. MAGIC JOHNSON, L.A. LAKERS, 1980 - 23.3
BILL WALTON, PORTLAND, 1977 - 23.3
LATRELL SPREWELL, NEW YORK, 1999 - 23.3
38. MICHAEL JORDAN, CHICAGO, 1996 - 23.1
39. LARRY BIRD, BOSTON, 1984 - 23.0
CHARLES BARKELY, PHOENIX, 1993 - 22.5
41. LARRY BIRD, BOSTON, 1986 - 22.4
42. HAKEEM OLAJUWON, HOUSTON, 1995 - 22.2
43. TIM DUNCAN, SAN ANTONIO, 2005 - 21.8
44. SCOTTIE PIPPEN, CHICAGO, 1992 - 21.5
45. JULIUS ERVING, PHILADELPHIA, 1980 - 21.4
46. HAKEEM OLAJUWON, HOUSTON, 1986 - 21.2
47. ISIAH THOMAS, DETROIT, 1988 - 20.5
48. CEDRIC MAXWELL, BOSTON, 1981 - 20.4
49. DIRK NOWITZKI, DALLAS, 2011 - 20.1
50. BEN WALLACE, DETROIT, 2004 - 16.5

Wade.

[rodman91]

Hollinger's list in order by PER

1. Dwyane Wade Mia 2006 - 33.8
2. Tim Duncan SA 2003 - 32.0
3. Michael Jordan Chi 1991 - 31.5
4. Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2002 - 31.4
5. Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2000 - 31.1
6. Michael Jordan Chi 1998 - - 30.8
7. Tim Duncan SA 1999 - 30.7
8. Dwyane Wade Mia 2011 - 30.2
9. Michael Jordan Chi 1997 - 29.5
10. Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2001 - 29.4
11. Michael Jordan, Chicago, 1992 - 29.2
12. KOBE BRYANT, LOS ANGELES, 2009 - 28.3
13. Magic Johnson, Los Angeles Lakers, 1987 - 28.2
14. MICHAEL JORDAN, CHICAGO, 1993 - 27.6
15. MAGIC JOHNSON, LOS ANGELES, 1988 - 27.5
16. KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR, L.A. LAKERS, 1980 - 27.3
17. Hakeem Olajuwon, Houston, 1994 - 27.1
ISIAH THOMAS, DETROIT, 1990 - 27.1
CHAUNCEY BILLUPS, DETROIT, 2004 - 27.1
20. KARL MALONE, UTAH, 1998 - 26.8
21. KOBE BRYANT, L.A. LAKERS, 2010 - 26.3
DAVID ROBINSON, SAN ANTONIO, 1999 - 26.3
23. CLYDE DREXLER, PORTLAND, 1990 - 26.0
MOSES MALONE, PHILADELPHIA, 1983 - 26.0
TONY PARKER, SAN ANTONIO, 2007 - 26.0
JOE DUMARS, DETROIT, 1989 - 26.0
27. SHAWN KEMP, SEATTLE, 1996 - 25.8
28. SHAQUILLE O'NEAL, L.A. LAKERS, 2004 - 25.7
29. PAU GASOL, LOS ANGELES, 2010 - 25.5
30. TIM DUNCAN, SAN ANTONIO, 2007 - 25.2
31. JULIUS ERVING, PHILADELPHIA, 1977 - 24.4
32. KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR, L.A. LAKERS, 1985 - 23.8
33. CHAUNCEY BILLUPS, DETROIT, 2005 - 23.7
MOSES MALONE, HOUSTON, 1981 - 23.5
35. MAGIC JOHNSON, L.A. LAKERS, 1980 - 23.3
BILL WALTON, PORTLAND, 1977 - 23.3
LATRELL SPREWELL, NEW YORK, 1999 - 23.3
38. MICHAEL JORDAN, CHICAGO, 1996 - 23.1
39. LARRY BIRD, BOSTON, 1984 - 23.0
CHARLES BARKELY, PHOENIX, 1993 - 22.5
41. LARRY BIRD, BOSTON, 1986 - 22.4
42. HAKEEM OLAJUWON, HOUSTON, 1995 - 22.2
43. TIM DUNCAN, SAN ANTONIO, 2005 - 21.8
44. SCOTTIE PIPPEN, CHICAGO, 1992 - 21.5
45. JULIUS ERVING, PHILADELPHIA, 1980 - 21.4
46. HAKEEM OLAJUWON, HOUSTON, 1986 - 21.2
47. ISIAH THOMAS, DETROIT, 1988 - 20.5
48. CEDRIC MAXWELL, BOSTON, 1981 - 20.4
49. DIRK NOWITZKI, DALLAS, 2011 - 20.1
50. BEN WALLACE, DETROIT, 2004 - 16.5

By PER this, by his choices it's even worse. This list just good argument for why PER sucks.