LeBron's 2016 Finals versus Jordan's 1993 finals

[SexSymbol]

Jordan, he didn't have a bad game in that series and LeBron had 3-4

[Mr Feeny]

Recovering from 3-1 down romanticises the story but ignores that they were down 3-1 in the first place in part due to LeBron under performing. I thought we were comparing the entire series, not just the last 3 games.

MJ was the better player and performed better in these two respective finals.

That's harsh and a little insane. They were down 3-1 because Golden State are a 73-9 team that proved that they were the best team in basketball for the previous 7 months. Then lebron turned on god-mode and the rest is history.

For the entire series, he just about averaged a triple double. He led both teams in all statistical categories. How do we NOT give the guy credit for that?

[Mr Feeny]

Jordan, he didn't have a bad game in that series and LeBron had 3-4

The 2 best perimeter players ever, Jordan and Lebron

[SexSymbol]

That's harsh and a little insane. They were down 3-1 because Golden State are a 73-9 team that proved that they were the best team in basketball for the previous 7 months. Then lebron turned on god-mode and the rest is history.

For the entire series, he just about averaged a triple double. He led both teams in all statistical categories. How do we NOT give the guy credit for that?

So why did they win in G7 if LeBron wasn't playing god mode? I mean he was absolutely horrific for 3 quarters

[SexSymbol]

The 2 best perimeter players ever, Jordan and Lebron

Magic, Kobe, Erving
Some people put Oscar in that category as well.

[Mr Feeny]

Magic, Kobe, Erving
Some people put Oscar in that category as well.

None of those are better than Lebron or Jordan.
And Kobe certainly isn't in the conversation as Magic.
There's a reason lebron, Magic and Jordan are top 5 players while Kobe isn't top 12.

[Mr Feeny]

So why did they win in G7 if LeBron wasn't playing god mode? I mean he was absolutely horrific for 3 quarters

No. Horrific is 6-24 and minimal playmaking.
27, 11 and 11 with 3 steals and 3 blocks while being the best defensive player on the court is sensational. So is scoring 11 4th quarter points *only 2 less than the entire warriors team.

Ofcourse a Kobe fan wouldn't know anything about excelling in the finals. He's a career 40% scorer in the finals for a reason

[SexSymbol]

No. Horrific is 6-24 and minimal playmaking.
27, 11 and 11 with 3 steals and 3 blocks while being the best defensive player on the court is sensational. So is scoring 11 4th quarter points *only 2 less than the entire warriors team.

Ofcourse a Kobe fan wouldn't know anything about excelling in the finals. He's a career 40% scorer in the finals for a reason

Draymond Green was 11-15 while being mostly left open by lebron. He was probably the worst defensive player on the floor aside from that GOAT block on Iguodala, he did nothing defensively that mattered at all.
Kobe was actually good on defense in his G7 and took down 15 rebounds which were massive.
Watch the game again, he was absolutely horrible throughout the first 3 quarters while Kyrie was keeping them in the game, even everybody in the gamethread agreed with me on this at the time, look it up.

[SexSymbol]

None of those are better than Lebron or Jordan.
And Kobe certainly isn't in the conversation as Magic.
There's a reason lebron, Magic and Jordan are top 5 players while Kobe isn't top 12.

Sure, that's your opinion, but it's really laughable to say that either Kobe or LeBron or Irving are not arguably better than LeBron.
Most of those players are in the same boat with Jordan being much higher

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

That's harsh and a little insane. They were down 3-1 because Golden State are a 73-9 team that proved that they were the best team in basketball for the previous 7 months. Then lebron turned on god-mode and the rest is history.

For the entire series, he just about averaged a triple double. He led both teams in all statistical categories. How do we NOT give the guy credit for that?

Totally agree.

Its not "just" about the last 3 games (though they mean A LOT). Look at the production he accumulated throughout the course of the series. Seriously when is the last time you've seen someone dominate EVERYBODY on both teams and in ALL major statistical categories? I would imagine it had to be LeBron because he's the only guy in history with as unique of a skillset.

The fact he did it against a team who were absolute driver-seat FAVORITES just about says it all, though.

[Da_Realist]

More significant = 2016 Lebron. He led his team back from a 3-1 series deficit against a team that won 73 games in the regular season. Almost single-handedly humbled a team that mocked everyone all season and danced on the on the sidelines after every made three point shot. Also made GSW eat crow after they questioned his manhood openly after Game 4. Also need to mention how significant it was that he punked the unanimous MVP when everything was on the line.

Better basketball = 1993 MJ. Always good to see a master technician at work. His offensive skillset shined throughout this series and actually showed what he would be capable of if teams didn't hold and grab him. Took what the defense gave him and scored all over the floor. Made it look too easy. The game after a heartbreaking 3OT home loss, he scored 55 points on a blistering 57%. And this may not have even been his most impressive game. Game 2, where he outlasted a 42 point, 13 reb effort by Barkley with an almost 42 point triple double might be a bit more impressive. Especially considering the Bulls were already up 1-0 and was playing on the road. He did not have an "off" switch and his skill level was ridiculous.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Recovering from 3-1 down romanticises the story but ignores that they were down 3-1 in the first place in part due to LeBron under performing. I thought we were comparing the entire series, not just the last 3 games.

Seriously. Also, Lebron's 11 rpg are more like 8-9 rpg because the manjority of his boards are completely wide open. He's not out there battling for rebounds or anything the majority of the time. So in my mind, it's more like 30/9/6/49% vs. 41/9/6/51%. Not that close imo, and that's ignoring that Jordan was more consistent throughout the series. If you want to just look at each of their best 3-4 games in these series, that's different.

[Dray n Klay]

Seriously. Also, Lebron's 11 rpg are more like 8-9 rpg because the manjority of his boards are completely wide open. He's not out there battling for rebounds or anything the majority of the time. So in my mind, it's more like 30/9/6/49% vs. 41/9/6/51%. Not that close imo, and that's ignoring that Jordan was more consistent throughout the series. If you want to just look at each of their best 3-4 games in these series, that's different.

Damn you're a dumbass


I've never seen so much fail in one post



Where did you get 30/9/6 for lebron? He averaged 30/11/9









Btw 30 ppg against the GOAT defense Warriors is easily worth 40-45 ppg vs those Suns. Don't kid yourself fool

[plowking]

lol at people saying the Bulls weren't favourites against the Suns.

[Prometheus]

Seriously. Also, Lebron's 11 rpg are more like 8-9 rpg because the manjority of his boards are completely wide open. He's not out there battling for rebounds or anything the majority of the time. So in my mind, it's more like 30/9/6/49% vs. 41/9/6/51%. Not that close imo, and that's ignoring that Jordan was more consistent throughout the series. If you want to just look at each of their best 3-4 games in these series, that's different.

This is some of the dumbest shit I've ever read. "In my mind, his stats are this" lmao so embarrassing. You should feel bad.