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Old 07-16-2018, 03:10 PM   #121
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Default Re: The Jordan Rules Defense. Can someone show it to me?

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Go read one of Phil Jackson's six books where he mentioned MJ needed to step back & involve his teammates. If reading is not your thing watch Phil comment on this when appearing on Oprah.
Pippen grew by leaps and bounds next to jordan BEFORE Phil got there.. He increased from 7 ppg in 1988, to 15 ppg in 1989.

So it's been a long-running false narrative that jordan needed to "involve" teammates - the correct narrative is that teammates were already improving drastically, and once they improved sufficiently, the bulls won

Btw, they didn't need to improve much - 538.com did a study on supporting casts, which showed that jordan had the weakest cast ever to win rings (91', 93'), except for Hakeem in 94, and dirk in 11'
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Old 07-16-2018, 03:13 PM   #122
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Pippen grew by leaps and bounds next to jordan BEFORE Phil got there.. He increased from 7 ppg in 1988, to 15 ppg in 1989.

So it's been a long-running false narrative that jordan needed to "involve" teammates - the correct narrative is that teammates were already improving drastically, and once they improved sufficiently, the bulls won

Btw, they didn't need to improve much - 538.com did a study on supporting casts, which showed that jordan had the weakest cast ever to win rings (91', 93'), except for Hakeem in 94, and dirk in 11'

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Old 07-16-2018, 03:17 PM   #123
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Games were high scoring in the ‘80s. Look at Michael Jordan’s scoring numbers per game in his early years, it’s insane. There’s a myth that the ‘80’s was a boring, low scoring decade. Showtime was running teams out of the gym. Celtics and Hawks were putting up 130 on a Wednesday then 140 on Thursday just another night at the office.

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Old 07-16-2018, 03:53 PM   #124
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According to basketballreference.com which is a highly credible source: Of the top 20 all time single season scoring leaders, only 2 out of the top 20 have lead the league in scoring since Michael Jordan during the 1989-1990 season. Those 2 players are Kobe Bryant 2005-2006 and Kevin Durant 2013-2014. Kevin Durant is the only active player on that list.
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:53 PM   #125
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Pippen grew by leaps and bounds next to jordan BEFORE Phil got there.. He increased from 7 ppg in 1988, to 15 ppg in 1989.

So it's been a long-running false narrative that jordan needed to "involve" teammates - the correct narrative is that teammates were already improving drastically, and once they improved sufficiently, the bulls won

Btw, they didn't need to improve much - 538.com did a study on supporting casts, which showed that jordan had the weakest cast ever to win rings (91', 93'), except for Hakeem in 94, and dirk in 11'

Who should I believe Phil Jackson or an internet troll?
How about John Salley who said the Pistons were not afraid because Jordan could be forced towards the double team & wouldn't pass.
The solution to Jordan rules was team basketball.
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Old Yesterday, 05:24 PM   #126
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Who should I believe Phil Jackson or an internet troll?
How about John Salley who said the Pistons were not afraid because Jordan could be forced towards the double team & wouldn't pass.
The solution to Jordan rules was team basketball.


Completely and utterly destroyed. He's been avoiding this and other FACTS like the plague.

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Old Yesterday, 08:33 PM   #127
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So OP, since you were asking for so long, I thought I'd show you a video showing quite a few brutal fouls by the Pistons and others on Jordan. Notice how many times Jordan get literally thrown to the ground by the Pistons and other teams. Now, you've got what you said you wanted in this thread, so you're welcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GpIzCDynkE

That's a pretty good sampling of the Jordan Rules. This of course is just illustrative of the type of fouls allowed in his hey day. I remember quite a few games on WGN where Jordan almost got his head taken off, but unfortunately I've never seen them on any video.

Every superstar in every era gets rough treatment compared to the average player, but there's literally no comparison to the type of punishment defenses were allowed to inflict in the 80's and 90's compared to today. Plays that would get players ejected today were two shot fouls then. You can say what you want about whether that's a good thing or bad thing, but there's no doubt the driving lanes today are far less dangerous - and less difficult - then in the past.
I don't care how physical the fouls were.

I've been told numerous of times that the reason MJ attempted only 8FGA in the most important playoff game to date in 1989 (game 5 in the ECF) was the swarming defense aka "Jordan rules defense" that was being played on him. That he had very minimal chances to shoot.

Where are all these incidences in this game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUTLRcL2ajw
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