Year By Year Stats of NBAs Average Points and FG%

[Hittin_Shots]

what? guys dont know who to shoot?

[asdf1990]

73 points on 28%fg, must have been brutal on the eyes.

[Hittin_Shots]

73 points on 28%fg, must have been brutal on the eyes.

No the awesomeness of the D would have been beautiful to watch, this thread is about defence.

[jlauber]

Of course, teams shoot the three a lot more in today's game than in the 80's, which would account for some of the FG% drop. For example eFG% in 2011 was at .498.

Personally, I have always wanted to know what happened in the 78-79 season that caused FG% to go from .469 in 77-78 to .485 in 78-79. From that point on, the league FG% was in the .480 to .492 area for about a decade....even with the advent of the trey.

One of the most interesting players was Artis Gilmore...whose FG%, on about the same scoring as he was doing in the 70's, and when he was in his prime, just went thru the roof in the 80's.

One more interesting point. I always get a kick out of those that hold "pace" against Chamberlain's accomplishments, yet they never acknowledge that the man was light years ahead of his peers in FG%. And it must be pointed out that early in his career, he was taking many outside shots (which would account for his .500-.540 shooting in his "scoring" years.) Also, some posters would have you believe that if you took Wilt's numbers into this era, that they would translate into about HALF of what he actually achieved...which is utter nonsense. In his '62 season, teams took 108 FGAs and 37 FTAs per game. In this past season, the NBA avearged 81 FGAs and and 24 FTAs per game. Which translates into 75% of the '62 season in FGAs and about 67% in FTAs. Reduce Wilt's FGAs in '62, which were at 39.5, and he takes about 30 FGAs in '11. Reduce his 17 FTAs in '62 to '11 levels, and he takes a little over 11 FTAs per game. Even before adjusting for a much higher FG% that he would shoot in '11, which was at .459 (instead of .426 in '62), he would averaged 37 ppg in TODAY's NBA. If you RAISE his .506 FG% to '11 levels, he would have shot .545. So, he would have scored about 2-3 more ppg, or nearly 40 ppg. THEN, if you factor in eFG%, which accounts for the many more 3's that are taken in today's game (and were nonexistent in '62 of course), which is at .498 in '11...and Wilt would have shot .591 (!) in '11. ..which would have given him 2.7 more FGs made ... or 42.4 ppg in '11... on .591 shooting.

Or, you could really simplify the entire process, and just do it the easy way. Team's averaged 118.8 ppg in '62, and 99.6 ppg in '11. Divide 99.6 by 118.8 and you come up with .838. Multiply that by Wilt's 50.4 ppg, and you come up with 42.3 ppg.

Now you can argue those numbers if you like. BUT, they are certainly more reflective of how a '62 Wilt would have fared in '11, than by the idiotic reasoning that his numbers would have been cut in HALF.

[Calabis]

find me any stat that i've manipulated to favor Kobe.

Here's one u use

Remove Kobe's first two seasons

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Jordan's stans don't like it when you remind them with simple and obvious reasoning that his stats were born of an inflated era.

[catch24]

More 3PT/A in the 2000s than in the 90s and 80s.

[Calabis]

More 3PT/A in the 2000s than in the 90s and 80s.

Yup, but its too hard for the Kobestans to look that a lower percentage shot is being taken at double the rate, hence a drop in FG%

Also less offensive rebounding, which tends to equal more possessions, which tends to lead to more points scored

[Colby Brian]

You can't say Kobestans don't manipulate facts to support kobe either, just look at the thread we're in and what his original terrible point was.

what was my "terrible point"

[Colby Brian]

More 3PT/A in the 2000s than in the 90s and 80s.

true, 3PT attempts lower %

but there was More FGA and Points in the 80s and 90s, a faster pace

1984-85 - 89.1 FGA, .491%, 110.8 Points
2005-06 - 79.0 FGA, .454%, 97.0 Points

thats 10.1 more FGA, and 13.8 more points per game

[Colby Brian]

1979-80-1988-89 (80s) - 88.9 FGA, 109.3 Points
1989-90-1998-99 (90s) - 83.1 FGA, 101.0 Points
1999-00-2006-07 (00s) - 80.5 FGA, 96.2 Points

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Yup, but its too hard for the Kobestans to look that a lower percentage shot is being taken at double the rate, hence a drop in FG%

Also less offensive rebounding, which tends to equal more possessions, which tends to lead to more points scored

Less offensive rebounding = better defensive rebounding = less fast breaks = less easy buckets= lesser offensive performances

[Calabis]

Less offensive rebounding = better defensive rebounding = less fast breaks = less easy buckets= lesser offensive performances

Maybe ur bs theory would hold weight if total rebounds were not down, and just maybe if u actually knew something about the game, it just may have to do with more teams spacing out, due to heavier dose of three point shooting, also better and more dominant bigs

[Colby Brian]

Maybe ur bs theory would hold weight if total rebounds were not down, and just maybe if u actually knew something about the game, it just may have to do with more teams spacing out, do to heavier dose of three point shooting, also better and more dominant bigs

ok forget fg%, look at the points per game and FGAs, much higher in the 80s and 90s to now = more points, better stats

[Calabis]

ok forget fg%, look at the points per game and FGAs, much higher in the 80s and 90s to now = more points, better stats

Ok so now that your FG% myth has been debunked....true teams played at a faster pace back then...but I see what u'r trying to do here....u'r premise on this new argument is that if Kobe played back then he would get more attempts and his stats would increase....but wait what this

Kobe Bryant during his 35.4 ppg, 27.2 FGA/10.2 FTA
Michael Jordan during his 35.0 ppg, 24.4 FGA/10.5 FTA

Hmmm what gives...Kobe had 3 more FGA, yet avg the same amount of points...why doesn't Kobe have more points...was it this great defense he faced???? Who were his listed matchups???....Please don't have me post this list too(again since u and the stans ignored it another thread u got shut down in)

Well I guess this argument comes back full circle to...Jordan is just a more efficient scorer than Kobe

* Also teams took the ball inside more(results in more free throw attempts) and did not abandon their offense as much as they do today. Also better bigs causing defense to suck in, which resulted in higher percentage shots for cutters, mid range shots attempted more and shot at a higher percentage.