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Re: Worst MVP in NBA history?
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Re: Worst MVP in NBA history?
Originally Posted by Nick Young
Lebron James. How can a man who only plays 3/4 of every game win two MVPs
Because the MVPs are a regular season reward, and how a man plays past that point really doesn't matter. Someone could dominate the regular season by getting his team the best record in the league, suck badly in the playoffs and still win.
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Re: Worst MVP in NBA history?
at so many mentions of Nash. Look at what he did for that Suns offense, and he had a legit case both years. He wasn't the best player in the league, but he had a legit case for MVP.
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Re: Worst MVP in NBA history?
Well obviously everyone who won has a legit case, or else why would they be in the running for it?
It's called Worst MVP. And I guess people define worst is when someone wins when he clearly isn't the best guy in the league
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Re: Worst MVP in NBA history?
Originally Posted by ShaqAttack3234
at so many mentions of Nash. Look at what he did for that Suns offense, and he had a legit case both years. He wasn't the best player in the league, but he had a legit case for MVP.
+1
@eat like a bosh:"And I guess people define worst is when someone wins when he clearly isn't the best guy in the league" it's not the best player in the league award it's the most VALUABLE player award.Nash ment to the Suns as much as Kobe did for the Lakers.And the Suns had a better record.
Last edited by SteveNashMVPcro; 07-29-2011 at 06:41 PM.
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Re: Worst MVP in NBA history?
Originally Posted by Eat Like A Bosh
It's called Worst MVP. And I guess people define worst is when someone wins when he clearly isn't the best guy in the league
how often has the best player in the league won it?
Since 1990.These are the years I can think of
1991- Jordan
1992- Jordan
1994- Hakeem
1996- Jordan
1998- Jordan
2000- Shaq
2003- Duncan
2004- Garnett
2008- Kobe
2009- Lebron
2010- Lebron
So 11 times in the last 21 years the award has been given to the best player in the league.
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Re: Worst MVP in NBA history?
Nash in 2005. He averaged 15 ppg and 11 apg and didn't led his team in either PER, WS or WS/PER 48 minutes. At least Rose led his team in all 3.
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Re: Worst MVP in NBA history?
Originally Posted by Duncan21formvp
Nash in 2005. He averaged 15 ppg and 11 apg and didn't led his team in either PER, WS or WS/PER 48 minutes. At least Rose led his team in all 3.
Except that he averaged 16 ppg and 11 apg and he also shot a 89/50/43.
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Re: Worst MVP in NBA history?
lots of nash haters in here. or just kobe fans mad that they took his MVPs
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Re: Worst MVP in NBA history?
Originally Posted by DuMa
lots of nash haters in here. or just kobe fans mad that they took his MVPs
At least you admit Nash took Kobe's MVP. Stupid Korean.
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Re: Worst MVP in NBA history?
Originally Posted by Duncan21formvp
Nash in 2005. He averaged 15 ppg and 11 apg and didn't led his team in either PER, WS or WS/PER 48 minutes. At least Rose led his team in all 3.
stats
the Suns went 2-5 without him and 60 15 with him.The season be4 the Suns had won 29 games-that season 62
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Re: Worst MVP in NBA history?
Originally Posted by Duncan21formvp
Nash in 2005. He averaged 15 ppg and 11 apg and didn't led his team in either PER, WS or WS/PER 48 minutes. At least Rose led his team in all 3.
If you're going to round the numbers, at least round them correctly. .5 is rounded up. So you'd have 16/3/12, and then consider his efficiency(50 FG%, 43 3P%, 89 FT%, 61 TS%).
At least Nash(known for their offense and the leader of their offense) was on a team that achieved the best record because of their offense.
Nash's team was the 17th best defensive or 14th worst defensive team in a 30 team league and they were outrebounded by 2 rpg per game. Why did they win? Because they were by far the best offensive team in the league.
Rose's team was the 11th best offensive team, but the best defensive team and they outrebounded opponents by an amazing 5.7 rpg.
And yes, Nash played with talent, but Phoenix was 2-5 without him.
The Suns offensive rating when Nash was on the court- 121.7
The Suns offensive rating when Nash was off the court- 104.1
Nash made that team an offensive juggernaut, can you say Rose did that for Chicago's defense and rebounding?
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Re: Worst MVP in NBA history?
Originally Posted by ShaqAttack3234
If you're going to round the numbers, at least round them correctly. .5 is rounded up. So you'd have 16/3/12, and then consider his efficiency(50 FG%, 43 3P%, 89 FT%, 61 TS%).
At least Nash(known for their offense and the leader of their offense) was on a team that achieved the best record because of their offense.
Nash's team was the 17th best defensive or 14th worst defensive team in a 30 team league and they were outrebounded by 2 rpg per game. Why did they win? Because they were by far the best offensive team in the league.
Rose's team was the 11th best offensive team, but the best defensive team and they outrebounded opponents by an amazing 5.7 rpg.
And yes, Nash played with talent, but Phoenix was 2-5 without him.
The Suns offensive rating when Nash was on the court- 121.7
The Suns offensive rating when Nash was off the court- 104.1
Nash made that team an offensive juggernaut, can you say Rose did that for Chicago's defense and rebounding?
Nash had a guy who averaged 37 ppg in the Conference Finals against prime Tim duncan and still lost with HCA.
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Re: Worst MVP in NBA history?
Originally Posted by TMT
I wouldn't say a weak year, because there were really a lot of teams that posed strong championship threats, but as far as individuals who single-handedly lead their teams to the top of their respective conferences, yes it was relatively hard to make the MVP choice. But at the end of the regular season Rose deserved it, even with his pretty evenly talented across the board team. Not like there were any better choices.
Heat - Bron + Wade = No MVPs for you
Spurs - No clear leader worthy of MVP
Celtics - same as Spurs
Lakers - not dominant enough this year for another Kobe MVP
Mavs - didn't show full potential until playoffs
Thunder - too low a seed for Durant MVP
I think the Mavs showed their potential in the regular season, it's just that people weren't paying attention because of their past. Besides, a lot of their losses were from when Dirk was injured.
I've been saying all along, Dirk should've been MVP this year but people were laughing at me. I understand why Rose got it but Dirk deserved it more IMO.
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Re: Worst MVP in NBA history?
Originally Posted by StacksOnDeck
At least you admit Nash took Kobe's MVP. Stupid Korean.
this idiot cant read a simple sentence. i admit nothing.
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