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Old 10-03-2013, 05:56 PM   #1
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Default Joe Haden & Richard Sherman 2013 Cornerback Logs.

Through week 6:



Richard Sherman:

Man2Man:

17 targets (two int)
4 completions (62 yards)
1 Penalty (16 yards)

QB Rating against: 6.6


Zone:

9 targets (one pick)
6 completions (149 yards, 1 TD)

QB Rating against: 107.0




Joe Haden:


Man2Man:

34 targets
12 completions (122 yards)
3 Penalty (50 yards)

QB Rating against: 60



Zone:

5 targets
3 completions (35 yards)

QB Rating against: 81.25

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Old 10-03-2013, 06:02 PM   #2
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Default Re: Joe Haden & Richard Sherman 2013 Cornerback Logs.

I've been a bit surprised so far this year with how many targets Haden is still getting. It seems QBs are still interested in testing him. It may also have to do with who he's been defending. He's spent the vast majority of his first four games playing across from Mike Wallace, Torrey Smith, Greg Jennings and AJ Green.

AJ Green alone had something like 16 targets last week, which is understandable.


Sherman has been the best corner in the league so far this year. Haden, meanwhile, has been playing at a Pro Bowl level, imo. Thanks for the statistics. Interesting stuff. You picked two good ones to track.
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Default Re: Joe Haden & Richard Sherman 2013 Cornerback Logs.

It's very interesting watching these two play, one is hyped up as the rival to Revis and the other is kind of mentioned, but not with the same oomph as others.

Watching Haden work is really reminiscent of Revis. He's not quite as strong on the LOS in press, but he has the same body type, the same great foot work and ball skills.... he just knows the ins and outs of playing the position.

And he's a great tackler. Just like Revis.
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Default Re: Joe Haden & Richard Sherman 2013 Cornerback Logs.

Richard Sherman = Best Corner in the league. You got stats for Patrick Peterson and Revis as well?
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Default Re: Joe Haden & Richard Sherman 2013 Cornerback Logs.

where did you get those stats?
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I watched the film.
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Not a great night for Haden.... got beat for 24 yards, another 10 yarder and had a big PI penalty called against him.

6 targets, 2 completions and 1 penalty for 63 total yards.
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Default Re: Joe Haden & Richard Sherman 2013 Cornerback Logs.

Sherman has an interesting match up this week. Should be lining up with Wayne a lot of the time.
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Not a great night for Haden.... got beat for 24 yards, another 10 yarder and had a big PI penalty called against him.

6 targets, 2 completions and 1 penalty for 63 total yards.
Easily Haden's worst game of the year. I think he may have been a bit hung over from Sunday, which was probably the best performance of his career by basically shutting down AJ Green.

Having to go out just four days later against an underrated Bills ensemble may have taken its toll.
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Default Re: Joe Haden & Richard Sherman 2013 Cornerback Logs.

What's your opinion on this play?

I personally think Sherman is as much at fault as anyone here. Sherm doesn't have flat responsibilities as a linebacker has that, Sherm is just floating up the sideline. Looks like he took the cheese on the shorter route and let the deep one go by.

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Default Re: Joe Haden & Richard Sherman 2013 Cornerback Logs.

Updated.

One thing that's jumping off the screen is Buster Skrine. He's not a prototype anything but he's a football player. He makes plays all the time.
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Default Re: Joe Haden & Richard Sherman 2013 Cornerback Logs.

Ty hilton play was earl thomas' fault.
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Default Re: Joe Haden & Richard Sherman 2013 Cornerback Logs.

I wish Haden was on a relevant team. Its good that he still gets the respect he deserves, but if he was on a contender with better defenders around him I think he would be considered the best corner in the game.
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Default Re: Joe Haden & Richard Sherman 2013 Cornerback Logs.

Sterling Sharpe made it pretty clear it was as much Shermans fault as anyone when he reviewed the film.
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Default Re: Joe Haden & Richard Sherman 2013 Cornerback Logs.

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What's your opinion on this play?

I personally think Sherman is as much at fault as anyone here. Sherm doesn't have flat responsibilities as a linebacker has that, Sherm is just floating up the sideline. Looks like he took the cheese on the shorter route and let the deep one go by.

http://tinypic.com/r/2e39aav/5
He "took the cheese" on the shorter route because he thought ET had the deep one.
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