Better duo : "Lebron & Phil" or "M.Jordan & Spoelstra" ?

[rlsmooth775]

lol..

So a 2nd round exit team is the same as a 3-time defending champion all-time great team 72 wins?

Because that was the difference of NO Jordan (2nd-round playoff team), and HAVING Jordan (3-time defending champion, all-time great team 72 wins)

Pretty big difference..

Pippen without jordan did more than jordan without pippen I think that's what he meant

[3ball]

Come on now. Lebron + Phil >>>> Jordan + Spoelstra

A lack of basketball knowledge showing it's head here..

To match Jordan's success in the triangle, you need someone with Jordan's post game and off-ball game because that is what the triangle is all about - feeding the post.... and you also need someone that makes lightning quick decisions from the post as well.

Lebron falls vastly short in these areas - his primary ballhandler style is literally toxic to the triangle... Lebron's core style is exactly what the triangle AVOIDS.. real talk.

[Sarcastic]

lebron doesnt listen to coaches anyway. he runs his own offense called "i'm lebron, i'm gonna make everyone stand at the three point line while i drive and look for a layup. if defenders collapse. i might pass you the ball



he's been doing this his entire career.

lebron would refuse a role in the triangle offense. he'd never get another triple double. and thats more important to lebron than rings. he loves his make shift stats

Agreed. It would take LeBron 4, maybe 5 years, to learn how to play in the triangle.

[rlsmooth775]

So pippen can lead the bulls to 55 wins second round with Phil but lebron would be cancer to the triangle lol

[rlsmooth775]

Jordan fans are delusional to how much his team needed him

[3ball]

Jordan fans are delusional to how much his team needed him

You do realize that Jordan's status as the all-time leader in Win Shares and WS/48 means he contributed more to his team's wins than anyone in history.

[rlsmooth775]

You do realize that Jordan's status as the all-time leader in Win Shares and WS/48 means he contributed more to his team's wins than anyone in history.

You do realize pip had more success without jordan than jordan without pip

[rlsmooth775]

Lol at jordan fans thinking michael was the only way the triangle can work

[Sarcastic]

So pippen can lead the bulls to 55 wins second round with Phil but lebron would be cancer to the triangle lol

They had an SRS of 2.87 that year. They were winning games by the skin of their teeth. They played with a chip on their shoulder, and wanted to show that they weren't just all about Jordan. They put up a valiant effort, but came up short in the end.

[3ball]

Lol at jordan fans thinking michael was the only way the triangle can work

For Phil to get 11 rings with the triangle, he needed players with ELITE, ALL-TIME, GOAT-LEVEL post games.

This would be Jordan, Shaq, Kobe.

Lebron's skillset obviously doesn't fit...

The offense would have to be much different, which means he'd be a big underdog to duplicate the success of the superior post players just mentioned, that the triangle required for optimal effectiveness.

[rlsmooth775]

Jordan fans have no comeback to pip having more success without jordan than the other way around

[rlsmooth775]

Why did the supposed greatest player of all time suck so hard without pip and Phil

[dubeta]

Jordan needs a system tailor made for his needs just to be successful, the dude was basically 1-9 without Phil

Jordan was basically Carmelo without Phil Jackson, Phil had to design a system from scratch just to help MJ get passed the first round


On the other hand LeBron can win rings without a system, due to his extraordinary playmaking skills


MJ without the triangle tailored made, is like a fish out of water

LeBron just needs the supplementary parts, and doesnt even need a system and can still win rings

[3ball]

Jordan fans have no comeback to pip having more success without jordan than the other way around

the argument is so dumb it's not worth a response.

[rlsmooth775]

Jordan needs a system tailor made for his needs just to be successful, the dude was basically 1-9 without Phil

Jordan was basically Carmelo without Phil Jackson, Phil had to design a system from scratch just to help MJ get passed the first round


On the other hand LeBron can win rings without a system, due to his extraordinary playmaking skills


MJ without the triangle tailored made, is like a fish out of water

LeBron just needs the supplementary parts, and doesnt even need a system and can still win rings

Lebron wins rings with no system leading his team in ppg rpg apg guards the best point guards on the opposing teams jordan had it easy compared to lebron he had pip to do half the work