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    Default Re: Would Jordan have won with this Wade as his Pippen?

    Quote Originally Posted by pauk
    Haha, are you kidding me? That team was much better than even this team Lebron won the championship with. Jordans supporting cast outproduced Lebrons supporting cast in playoffs by +5.5 PPG, +7.1 RPG, +5.7 APG, +2.0 SPG, +1.8 BPG..... that team was more deep, more experienced and had a much better coach.
    The opposition was also better. MJ's teams lost to the 85 Bucks his rookie year and then lost to the 80's Pistons and 80's Celtics before winning the title. Lebron's Cavs weren't going to beat those teams. Especially if he played during those times before the rule changes.
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    Default Re: Would Jordan have won with this Wade as his Pippen?

    Quote Originally Posted by aceman
    pippen's one man wrecking crew defence surpasses anything wade did this year
    Nice try, but no. They're equal at best.

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    Default Re: Would Jordan have won with this Wade as his Pippen?

    The question should be "would jordan have won with Erik Spoelstra as his Phil Jackson?"

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    Default Re: Would Jordan have won with this Wade as his Pippen?

    This year's Wade? No.

    Pip wasn't this washed up in their last winning team.

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    Default Re: Would Jordan have won with this Wade as his Pippen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alisse
    The question should be "would jordan have won with Erik Spoelstra as his Phil Jackson?"
    Now we're talking about coaches. Ok, Phil Jackson was MJ's coach...but he had to play against Chuck Daly (4 times) and Pat Riley (4 times) to even make it to the Finals. He had to beat Larry Bird's Pacers in 98 (but they were really coached by Rick Carlisle -- the guy Lebron's team lost to in 2011). Other notables include Lenny Wilkins, Mike Fratello, Rick Adelman, George Karl, Jeff Van Gundy and Jerry Sloan. None of those guys were slouches.

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    Default Re: Would Jordan have won with this Wade as his Pippen?

    Quote Originally Posted by swi7ch
    This year's Wade? No.

    Pip wasn't this washed up in their last winning team.
    That's a joke, right? Playoff stats:

    '98 Pippen: 16.8 pts/7.1 reb/5.2 ast/41.5% FG/50.0% TS

    '12 Wade: 22.8 pts/5.2 reb/4.3 ast/46.2% FG/52.6% TS

    And no, Pippen's defense doesn't make up that gap in production (roughly +8-9 ppg when you factor in efficiency; and it's not like Wade isn't a great defender himself). As I said, they're equal at best, edge to Wade if anything.

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    Default Re: Would Jordan have won with this Wade as his Pippen?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
    That's a joke, right? Playoff stats:

    '98 Pippen: 16.8 pts/7.1 reb/5.2 ast/41.5% FG/50.0% TS

    '12 Wade: 22.8 pts/5.2 reb/4.3 ast/46.2% FG/52.6% TS

    And no, Pippen's defense doesn't make up that gap in production (roughly +8-9 ppg when you factor in efficiency; and it's not like Wade isn't a great defender himself). As I said, they're equal at best, edge to Wade if anything.
    What if they switched competition? Do you remember how many key defenders were hurt during the Heats run? Avery Bradly and Jermaine Oneal? Iman Shummpert. Defensively, wouldnt you say the teams the Bulls went through in 98 were much better defensively?

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    Default Re: Would Jordan have won with this Wade as his Pippen?

    Quote Originally Posted by 97 bulls
    What if they switched competition? Do you remember how many key defenders were hurt during the Heats run? Avery Bradly and Jermaine Oneal? Iman Shummpert. Defensively, wouldnt you say the teams the Bulls went through in 98 were much better defensively?


    Right on cue...

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    Default Re: Would Jordan have won with this Wade as his Pippen?

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    Default Re: Would Jordan have won with this Wade as his Pippen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Hoops
    Give Bron his props.
    In '80s decade. Jordan would not have won

    In '90s decade. Jordan would not have won.

    In '00 decade. '80s era bulls of Michael + Jordanaires would have won 2 rings & not be stuck at ECF running into Pistons 3 yrs in a row. 1-2 rings easily. '00 era was clearly weak.

    in '10 era. Jordan would've won 1-2 rings by himself. Wade is not needed. He is more of a ballhog with weak handles than anything else.

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    Default Re: Would Jordan have won with this Wade as his Pippen?

    This iz stupid they both SG

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