Ibaka is a top 10 PF.

[mjokc]

There is no more denying it anymore he's leading big me in shooting % as well as blocks. His defense isn't too shabby either, although he could improve his man defense. I'd put Ibaka at a solid #10. Since Garnett and Duncan are mostly centers now, I don't include them in the top PF list. To make it clear, if we were discussing GOAT PFs, then of course Garnett and Duncan would be listed.

[HarryCallahan]

[luckylucy]

LeBron and Melo are playing PF, if you are taking away Garnett and Duncan then you should put them in.

BTW you seem mad.

[mjokc]

Well, according to you Faried is better than Blake Griffin and Ibaka is better than Faried. So why would Ibaka being listed as a top 10 PF be humorous? And try to respond in English instead of troll speak.

[Mr Exlax]

Damn he really went and made a thread about it lol.

[Shep]

he was a top 5 power forward last season..

[mjokc]

LeBron and Melo are playing PF, if you are taking away Garnett and Duncan then you should put them in.

BTW you seem mad.

Oh I'm not mad at all brochacho.

Would you consider Melo and Bron as actual PFs though? I still consider them SFs that play PF depending on the match up.

[kshutts1]

In no order, and even though I disagree, I'll leave out KG and Duncan...

PFs I would take before Ibaka:
Dirk
Bosh
Gasol
Love
Griffin

PFs on the same level as Ibaka:
Monroe
Randolph
Lee
West
Josh Smith
Cousins (only because of his attitude)
Aldridge

How far he has fallen (after Ibaka, and he used to be so good):
Amare

So.. yeah. Top 10 seems pretty reasonable. I'd honestly pick Ibaka before all of the "same level" players except Aldridge.

[mjokc]

In no order, and even though I disagree, I'll leave out KG and Duncan...

PFs I would take before Ibaka:
Dirk
Bosh
Gasol
Love
Griffin

PFs on the same level as Ibaka:
Randolph
Lee
West
Josh Smith
Cousins (only because of his attitude)
Aldridge

How far he has fallen (after Ibaka, and he used to be so good):
Amare

So.. yeah. Top 10 seems pretty reasonable. I'd honestly pick Ibaka before all of the "same level" players except Aldridge.

You know, I completely forgot about cousins and for some reason thought he was a C.

[kshutts1]

You know, I completely forgot about cousins and for some reason thought he was a C.

Duncan/KG territory? Cousins plays C position, but since he plays for Sac, and I live in NY, I never see him play to make an opinion myself. Either way, he's not crucial to the list.

Edit:
Monroe is someone I didn't mention. He'd be in the "same level" list.

[HarryCallahan]

You know, I completely forgot about cousins and for some reason thought he was a C.

He is a C... Unlike Timmy.

[mjokc]

Duncan/KG territory? Cousins plays C position, but since he plays for Sac, and I live in NY, I never see him play to make an opinion myself. Either way, he's not crucial to the list.

Edit:
Monroe is someone I didn't mention. He'd be in the "same level" list.

Hell no I just forgot about him completely lol.

And yeah, Monroe is another, although isn't he a center or is he another hybrid?

[kshutts1]

Hell no I just forgot about him completely lol.

And yeah, Monroe is another, although isn't he a center or is he another hybrid?

I meant "territory" as in what position is he really. Not in terms of abilities. lol.

And Monroe is another hybrid.. plays C now (I believe) but a lot of people think he is best served as the high post option in a two-big offense (Drummond?).

[mjokc]

I meant "territory" as in what position is he really. Not in terms of abilities. lol.

And Monroe is another hybrid.. plays C now (I believe) but a lot of people think he is best served as the high post option in a two-big offense (Drummond?).

[LikeABosh]

In no order, and even though I disagree, I'll leave out KG and Duncan...

PFs I would take before Ibaka:
Dirk
Bosh
Gasol
Love
Griffin

PFs on the same level as Ibaka:
Monroe
Randolph
Lee
West
Josh Smith
Cousins (only because of his attitude)
Aldridge

How far he has fallen (after Ibaka, and he used to be so good):
Amare

So.. yeah. Top 10 seems pretty reasonable. I'd honestly pick Ibaka before all of the "same level" players except Aldridge.

Aldridge same level as Ibaka? Are you serious?