The Bad Boy Pistons allowed more PPG than Dirk/Nash's Mavs/Suns

[mehyaM24]

I don't know. I don't know what to believe any more.

But the name Boris keeps popping up in my head for some reason.

everybody has that ONE slow guy (far from "weak" either)

name a few more dude

[DonDadda59]

everybody has that ONE slow guy (far from "weak" either)

name a few more dude

My main man Tim Duncan- love him to death. But he's slow as shit and hasn't gotten more than 3" off the ground for the better part of a decade.

He's also 38 years old.

[Kblaze8855]

This is one of those topics where someone who doesnt even remember the people in question starts judging them and will call people who have a much more informed opinion nostalgic if that more informed opinion doesnt fall in line with the guy asking. So....there really isnt a point in answering. Not like you would accept the answer as truth.

[kentatm]

mehyaM24

thanks for letting us know your basketball opinions are worthless due to complete ignorance.

[tontoz]

Yeah the players back then were wimps...

[dubeta]

This proves scoring and rebounding records were inflated back then

[sportjames23]

OP and dubeta stay failing.

[plowking]

How I would love to see Wade try that drive for free throws bullshit against Laimbeer

Wade always did well against physical defenses. Early in their careers he proved he was the one most capable of dealing with it. Better than Bron, and even better than prime Kobe.

[Poetry]

This proves scoring and rebounding records were inflated back then

From a different thread, but still applies:

Pace is at 94.2, as of today.

In Bird's last year it was at 96.6. He averaged 9.6 boards that season. And that was an old, broken Bird.

When pace was at 103.1 in 1982-83, Bird averaged 11 rebounds.

Despite the nearly 7 point drop off in pace, Bird's rebounding numbers only dropped by 1.4. It wasn't a monumental drop off.

If Prime Bird played at today's pace of 94.2, his stats would be practically identical.

Don't buy into that pace nonsense. A superstar will get the same numbers and touches regardless of pace.

[Marchesk]

Yup, that's why the Spurs just put a Historic ass whooping on Bron and co- because they're bigger, stronger, faster than the Heat.

Every year players get bigger, stronger and faster. It's a trend. You can tell Manu is bigger, stronger and faster this year than he was last year. Dunking over Bosh on a fastbreak - nobody even a decade ago could have pulled that off in their 30s.

[Rose'sACL]

Yup, that's why the Spurs just put a Historic ass whooping on Bron and co- because they're bigger, stronger, faster than the Heat.



^Dudes look like they live in the gym. And did you see how fast and athletic they were in the finals?

Actually, spurs are bigger, stronger, younger than heat. We have the better team and unlike you or guys like Marlo/silk, I take pride in it.

[stephanieg]

Even with just raw opponent PPG this isn't true.

1989 Pistons: 100.8
1990 Pistons: 98.3
1991 Pistons: 96.8

2005 Suns: 103.3
2010 Suns: 105.3

[masonanddixon]

Man the 02-03 Mavs are my favorite squad of all time but the defense was terrible, especially with Nellie at the helm.

Though I must say Dirk did a very admirable job holding down the Center spot on defense most of the time, and Raja Bell worked his ass off defensively.

[TheMan]

The previous four are 'skinny sticks' according to OP. Meanwhile these are three of today's top scorers...




the MVP

This extraordinary modern physical specimen was getting mentioned as a FMVP, true story!

[Anaximandro1]

The Bad Boy Pistons allowed more PPG than Dirk/Nash's Mavs/Suns

Stats need context.

The 80s had faster pace and higher offensive/defensive rating.

Bad Boy Pistons were a dominant defensive team in the 80s, while Nash Mavs were a bad defensive team in the 00s.

This proves scoring and rebounding records were inflated back then

Sure, but we have Per 100 Team Possessions.

Don't buy into that pace nonsense. A superstar will get the same numbers and touches regardless of pace.

the number of touches has a strong relationship with :

1) pace




2) team structure