Which 90's superstars would translate best to the modern era?

[warriorfan]

Kevin Johnson would put up numbers like Westbrook but on better efficiency

[L.Kizzle]

90s is modern era.

Garnet, Duncan and Kobe were all-stars in the 90s.

[Im Still Ballin]

90s is modern era.

[andgar923]

Barkley would beast.

Not so sure about that.

Today's rules would eliminate him backing down players in the post like he did, and softer rules would take away some of his edge. Half the shit he did would be a foul today.

[bdreason]

Barkley would be unstoppable.

[andgar923]

Barkley would be unstoppable.

And fined, suspended, in foul trouble.

He was an aggressive and physical player.

[houston]

hakeem

[Marchesk]

And fined, suspended, in foul trouble.

He was an aggressive and physical player.

But they would let Shaq be, right?

[plowking]

Somehow andgar believes that basketball today is worse, despite it being more popular than ever globally, and a larger pool of talent being available. lol...

Some people just don't have common sense. The game is better today, and it is harder to dominate as an individual. Several players have commented on it, even Jordan, mentioning that today's zones would limit what a superstar is capable of.

[Reggie43]

Chris Mullin

[3ball]

Today's rules would eliminate him backing down players in the post like he did

Are you guys all just stupid?.. Is that it?.. Seriously.. WHAT GAME ARE YOU WATCHING

Today's rules would eliminate him backing down players in the post like he did

It's like you guys have all heard some number-cruncher say that posting up doesn't work today, so regardless of how many wide open paints and post ups you see, you'll continue to be hypnotized and think "post ups don't work today... post ups don't work today... post ups don't work today... uh, er, derrrrrr, i'm a dumbass".

But in reality, this type of post-up happens all the time - it's not RELIED upon like it was in previous eras because the spacing and rule changes have made ball movement more effective (and therefore a viable alternative to posting up.. an alternative that wasn't there in previous eras).

Today's rules would eliminate him backing down players in the post like he did

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/feature...son/index.html

NBA.com: Doesn't the wide-open style benefit certain types of players? For example, wing players vs. frontcourt players?

Stu Jackson: The benefits of an open game are not limited to just perimeter players. An open game can benefit a post player as well. Remember, if the players are spaced wider and using more of the court, then defenses have to play those players closely because they're good shooters. The style actually serves to open up the middle of the floor. If a team has an effective post player, he would have more room to operate in the post.

[TheMan]

Jordan without Pippen? not so sure.

Wow you just can't help yourself, huh? It's a tired and played out saying but Jordan really is camping out in that small brain of yours...rent free.

To the OPs question, pretty much all of the players who stood out in the 90s would stand out today, it's not like the 90s were 50 years ago. BTW, Shaq would be as dominant as he was back then, surround him with three point shooters and it's over. If you don't doubleteam him, he'll destroy his matchup, if his defender gets help, he'll find the open shooter...pretty basic. That's how the Rockets won in 94.

[TheMan]

Are you guys all just stupid?.. Is that it?.. Seriously.. WHAT GAME ARE YOU WATCHING






It's like you guys have all heard some number-cruncher say that posting up doesn't work today, so regardless of how many wide open paints and post ups you see, you'll continue to be hypnotized and think "post ups don't work today... post ups don't work today... post ups don't work today... uh, er, derrrrrr, i'm a dumbass".

But in reality, this type of post-up happens all the time - it's not RELIED upon like it was in previous eras because the spacing and rule changes have made ball movement more effective (and therefore a viable alternative to posting up.. an alternative that wasn't there in previous eras).



http://www.nba.com/2009/news/feature...son/index.html

NBA.com: Doesn't the wide-open style benefit certain types of players? For example, wing players vs. frontcourt players?

Stu Jackson: The benefits of an open game are not limited to just perimeter players. An open game can benefit a post player as well. Remember, if the players are spaced wider and using more of the court, then defenses have to play those players closely because they're good shooters. The style actually serves to open up the middle of the floor. If a team has an effective post player, he would have more room to operate in the post.

Exactly

I think the biggest reasons why post up offense isn't as "popular" is for a couple of reasons...a lack of talented big men with elite post moves. For some reason, there just aren't any. Transport prime Shaq today and he'd be as lethal as he was back then. Another reason I believe is the Jordan effect, and players like Kobe, TMac, AI and Wade after #23. The game is more perimeter friendly because, one, casual fans like watching that style more and two, players today have been influenced by that style of play. That's why even though IMO LeBron would be damn near impossible to guard in the post, he still prefers to be out on the perimeter. Players just want to beat you off the dribble rather than post you up, it's more sexier I guess.

I firmly believe we'll see another dominant post up player(s) sometime in the future and we'll all go, "posting up your defender is effective!"...

[andgar923]

Are you guys all just stupid?.. Is that it?.. Seriously.. WHAT GAME ARE YOU WATCHING






It's like you guys have all heard some number-cruncher say that posting up doesn't work today, so regardless of how many wide open paints and post ups you see, you'll continue to be hypnotized and think "post ups don't work today... post ups don't work today... post ups don't work today... uh, er, derrrrrr, i'm a dumbass".

But in reality, this type of post-up happens all the time - it's not RELIED upon like it was in previous eras because the spacing and rule changes have made ball movement more effective (and therefore a viable alternative to posting up.. an alternative that wasn't there in previous eras).



http://www.nba.com/2009/news/feature...son/index.html

NBA.com: Doesn't the wide-open style benefit certain types of players? For example, wing players vs. frontcourt players?

Stu Jackson: The benefits of an open game are not limited to just perimeter players. An open game can benefit a post player as well. Remember, if the players are spaced wider and using more of the court, then defenses have to play those players closely because they're good shooters. The style actually serves to open up the middle of the floor. If a team has an effective post player, he would have more room to operate in the post.

One or a few gifs won't prove anything.

It's the RULE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-se...le_(basketball)

Five-second back to the basket violation[edit]
A player in the frontcourt, below the free throw line extended, is not permitted to dribble the ball with his back or side to the basket for more than five seconds.[6] A count ends when:[6]

Player picks up his dribbling
Player dribbles above the free throw line extended
The defense deflects the ball
This is an NBA only rule. It is often referred to as the "Mark Jackson Rule".

[Im Still Ballin]

One or a few gifs won't prove anything.

It's the RULE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-se...le_(basketball)

Five-second back to the basket violation[edit]
A player in the frontcourt, below the free throw line extended, is not permitted to dribble the ball with his back or side to the basket for more than five seconds.[6] A count ends when:[6]

Player picks up his dribbling
Player dribbles above the free throw line extended
The defense deflects the ball
This is an NBA only rule. It is often referred to as the "Mark Jackson Rule".

Don't even bother with 3ball, his posts are just copy pastes and barely relevant/lacking in context to the arguments at hand

A lot harder to post up in this era... As andgar said The 5 seconds mark Jackson rule... No illegal defense aka no restrictions on the defense/more defensive freedom.... The only way to effectively be a dominant post player in this era is if you have enough spacing via shooters, at the 3 point line... Classic example of this is Dwight's 09 magic that made it to the finals... This is also the reason why we see less dominant centers and more faceup shooting PF's... Big men haven't gotten 'soft', the rules have just changed. My Sacramento Kings need more spacing for Demarcus, he's pretty much the best post player in the league and a terrific passer especially from the block... He would do well with a guy like Serge Ibaka who provides the offensive spacing as well as the defense...