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i'd rather see lebron win and duncan fall out of top 10
dont wanna see lebron go 2 for 5 and waste 4 mvp awards and 10 years of my life having to hear how good lebron is or will be. duncan didnt get any hype and was boring. he didnt face any pressure of hatred.
so i think lebron deserves success and will actually do something with it. duncan winning means nothing. he cant catch jordan. but lebron can
plus i wanna keep kobe as the player of his generation
like i said the other day. 1 guy will gain ground in the top 10. the other will down.. lebron might be neck and neck with kobe. 1 guy ahead of the other depending on the fan base. but atleast we'l still have the 5 > 3 ammo
and if lebron ever did pass kobe in rings. i wouldnt feel bad cause lebron is more agressive offensively and would have my respect
duncan on the other hand doesnt make the spurs go. he hasnt made them go since 2003... manu was the driving force in 2005, parker in 2007.. now its manu and parker together
i would be ashamed and dissapointed if duncan matched kobe. not so much with lebron cause even though he ring chased and colluded. atleast he is the most important guy on miami and is the guy who makes them win.. asside from a lucky ray allen shot. lebron is the mvp
that being said
duncan losing might not be as damaging as it would be to lebron. but its still bad. and being known for choking his last 2 chances at catching kobe and having a worse finals win% even while playing 1 less final will be more than enough along with the 5 rings and more all nba's/ all defensive awards to be known as the player of his generation
- tnt player of the decade
- dime magazine player of the decade
- sporting news player of the decade
add a duncan nightmarish ending like losing with a missed point blank layup and choking with homecourt a year later = no chance to even have an argument with us.. final nail in the coffin
go heat
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sahelanthropus
Re: i'd rather see lebron win and duncan fall out of top 10
griff - What's your prediction for the series?
I have a feeling it's going to be very short, 5 games most likely. Not sure who will win, but in rematches like this, sometimes one team's done far more prep/adjusting/gameplanning.
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Re: i'd rather see lebron win and duncan fall out of top 10
Duncan's not even better than Shaq and you worry about him in the Top 10.
Jordan
Russel
Kareem
Magic
Kobe
Bird
Shaq
Wilt
Hakeem
Duncan
West
Dr. J
Isiah
Lebron
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Curry fam
Re: i'd rather see lebron win and duncan fall out of top 10
Originally Posted by fpliii
griff - What's your prediction for the series?
I have a feeling it's going to be very short, 5 games most likely. Not sure who will win, but in rematches like this, sometimes one team's done far more prep/adjusting/gameplanning.
No way. Lebron can win at least two games himself as can the Spurs 3 point shooting.
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I rule the local playground
Re: i'd rather see lebron win and duncan fall out of top 10
You can not fall in the ranking when you go in the finals....
Duncan is easily in the top 10, win or lose
6 Nba finals
4 titles(or 5)
3 FMVP(or 4)
2 mvp
This is better than Kobe
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Re: i'd rather see lebron win and duncan fall out of top 10
Originally Posted by fpliii
griff - What's your prediction for the series?
I have a feeling it's going to be very short, 5 games most likely. Not sure who will win, but in rematches like this, sometimes one team's done far more prep/adjusting/gameplanning.
heat steal one of the first 2 games and win both at home
go back to sanantio up 3-1 and lose... take the title in game 6 at home
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15x all nba legend
Re: i'd rather see lebron win and duncan fall out of top 10
Originally Posted by PickernRoller
Duncan's not even better than Shaq and you worry about him in the Top 10.
Jordan
Russel
Kareem
Magic
Kobe
Bird
Shaq
Wilt
Hakeem
Duncan
West
Dr. J
Isiah
Lebron
Great list besides Isiah & West over Lebron
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Bad Username
Re: i'd rather see lebron win and duncan fall out of top 10
Originally Posted by PickernRoller
Duncan's not even better than Shaq and you worry about him in the Top 10.
Jordan
Russel
Kareem
Magic
Kobe
Bird
Shaq
Wilt
Hakeem
Duncan
West
Dr. J
Isiah
Lebron
All of the bolded players have at least a slight case for being over Duncan all-time. I could argue and debate all of them being better. Though it would be tough to make a case for West and Hakeem. They lack rings and accolades.
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Re: i'd rather see lebron win and duncan fall out of top 10
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
Great list besides Isiah & West over Lebron
One more ring puts him clearly ahead. I just don't like his ring in 2013, the way he handled the last minute of game 6 (4th quarter). Nor do I like his showing in 11' and 07. That's why I am giving Isiah and West the edge - not by much. I still believe if he played up to his potential in that series it would have been over in max 6 - but he did NOT. He had poor performances for absolutely no reason (other than his usual mental block). Breaking the Spurs backbone is not hard, clearly shown in game 7 after he adjusted. You gotta attack them and take the shots.
Last edited by PickernRoller; 06-03-2014 at 09:16 PM.
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I rule the local playground
Re: i'd rather see lebron win and duncan fall out of top 10
And lose against the heat is not a disgrace...Duncan was very good in the final last year (19/12 is 49%)
It was very good for a player of 37 years old
If you lose in the finals, even if you play well, you have no reason to fall in the rankings....This is a team sport
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Re: i'd rather see lebron win and duncan fall out of top 10
Originally Posted by LeBron 06
You can not fall in the ranking when you go in the finals....
Duncan is easily in the top 10, win or lose
6 Nba finals
4 titles(or 5)
3 FMVP(or 4)
2 mvp
This is better than Kobe
wrong...
the ranking right now is
#6 kobe
#7 Bird
#8 Shaq
#9 Duncan
#10 Lebron
IMO with a win lebron goes from 10th to 7th. and duncan goes from 9th to 10th
the new order with lebron winning would be
#6 Kobe
#7 Lebron
#8 Bird
#9 Shaq
#10 Duncan
the new order with Duncan winning without finals mvp would be
#6 Kobe
#7 Duncan
#8 Bird
#9 Shaq
#10 Lebron
the new order with duncan winnin with finals mvp would be
#6 Duncan
#7 Kobe
#8 Bird
#9 Shaq
#10 Lebron
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I rule the local playground
Re: i'd rather see lebron win and duncan fall out of top 10
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
wrong...
the ranking right now is
#6 kobe
#7 Bird
#8 Shaq
#9 Duncan
#10 Lebron
IMO with a win lebron goes from 10th to 7th. and duncan goes from 9th to 10th
the new order with lebron winning would be
#6 Kobe
#7 Lebron
#8 Bird
#9 Shaq
#10 Duncan
the new order with Duncan winning without finals mvp would be
#6 Kobe
#7 Duncan
#8 Bird
#9 Shaq
#10 Lebron
the new order with duncan winnin with finals mvp would be
#6 Duncan
#7 Kobe
#8 Bird
#9 Shaq
#10 Lebron
If you not fall in the ranking if you lose, it's okay....But Duncan is ahead of Kobe for me,even if this is close
Duncan:4 titles,3 finals mvp,2 mvp=9
Kobe:5 titles,2 finals mvp,1 mvp=8
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: i'd rather see lebron win and duncan fall out of top 10
Hakeem is not greater than Duncan, sorry.
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Re: i'd rather see lebron win and duncan fall out of top 10
The premise of this thread is an embarrassment to logic.
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The Beast In Me
Re: i'd rather see lebron win and duncan fall out of top 10
"plus i wanna keep kobe as the player of his generation"
What's funny about this is, by your logic, Kobe not playing a single Playoff game in two years is better than Duncan making b2b Finals (with two losses). And, by that logic, Hakeem being knocked out of the first round however many times is better than West losing in the Finals however many times.
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