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Curry: 0x Finals MVP
Re: Replace Lebron With Kobe on the Cavs from 06-10
Originally Posted by pegasus
At least one ring in 2009, and much better PPG all four years. Remember, we're talking about prime Kobe here (06-10).
Give Kobe that great defensive team full of shooters and good role players, he would beat Orlando and then whomever they would face in the finals. If it's Lebron's Lakers, then you know Lebron would turn Gasol into a total scrub by then like he always does to good players, so there's no way he could beat the Cavs (w/ Kobe) in the finals.
How about this: would the Heat win it all last year with Kobe instead of Lebron? I say yes, although Kobe was not 100%.
Most would disagree with you about your stance on Lebron's former teammates being "good". But I appreciate all the though you put in your answer.
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Curry: 0x Finals MVP
Re: Replace Lebron With Kobe on the Cavs from 06-10
Originally Posted by eliteballer
You clowns are going to compare playing with Smush, Kwame, Walton etc. in the West...... to Hughes, Gooden, Mo Williams, Varajeo Big Z, Boozer, Jamison reliable rebounding bigs, shooters, PG's in the East etc?
Really
Lets not act like leBron was playing on Carter Raptors, Tmacs Magic, AI's Sixers etc.
Boozer played with Lebron for only his rookie season. Utah gave him a huge contract in 04.
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Re: Replace Lebron With Kobe on the Cavs from 06-10
Kobe could win with Jamison, Varejao, Z, Delonte, Mo Will, Boobie. Firstly they are stacked in the guards so they can trade that for some front court strength since you dont need anyone in the backcourt when you have Kobe. And no big really can play well with Lebron, even Bosh has limited his game.
One thing for sure, Kobe would have not averaged 17ppg with Wade and Bosh in the finals. He would have had a championship with Lebron's heat easily.
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: Replace Lebron With Kobe on the Cavs from 06-10
Originally Posted by eliteballer
You clowns are going to compare playing with Smush, Kwame, Walton etc. in the West
Why is it when people try to make this point they always leave out Lamar Odom? At no point did LeBron play with anyone the Lakers would've traded Lamar Odom for.
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I Insist
Re: Replace Lebron With Kobe on the Cavs from 06-10
Remember when people thought the Cavs would beat, even sweep the Celtics in '10? And then the C's chased LeBron out of town, essentially killing the franchise and sinking Cleveland's economy? Those were some serious good times.
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Bulls
Re: Replace Lebron With Kobe on the Cavs from 06-10
Zero. Probably no finals as well.
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Re: Replace Lebron With Kobe on the Cavs from 06-10
Hate me if you want but I say he would have won 1. It's not about having other stars, it's about having role players that love their role and the cavs was a perfect fit. They had Shaq who had a little something left and still the biggest player in the league, big Z, boobie who was like a poor mans Jason Terry, varejao the most active role player in the league, great wing defender in moon, another three point specialist in Parker, also a 20 and 10 power forward in Jamison.
Notice the thread starter never said lebron had to be on the lakers, just about Kobe being on the cavs so the cavs would have faced the suns in the finals. Overall the 09-10 cavs had the perfect role players for any star. So regular season lebron would have done better but post season Kobe wouldve got the job done
Last edited by INDI; 01-05-2012 at 11:49 AM.
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2nd Greatest Player
Re: Replace Lebron With Kobe on the Cavs from 06-10
LeBron actually put up better numbers than Kobe againts the same opponents ( 08 Celtics, 09 Magic, and '10 Celtics). Lebron averaged 38-9-9 againts the Orlando magic, but the Magic still beat them in 6 games because Mo Williams was not even a reliable 2nd option.
Last edited by Lebron23; 01-05-2012 at 11:50 AM.
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#Trump4Treason
Re: Replace Lebron With Kobe on the Cavs from 06-10
how are heat fans so sure, when they were epically wrong about last season.
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Re: Replace Lebron With Kobe on the Cavs from 06-10
Originally Posted by Lebron23
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Early 1990's Jordan, 1994 Hakeem and Prime Shaq are the only NBA players that I can see win an NBA title with that Cavaliers team.
Jordan and Hakeem maybe... Shaq is no. Whose going to be the closer and who will Shaq rely on from double teams??
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Great college starter
Re: Replace Lebron With Kobe on the Cavs from 06-10
Jordan only won with stacked team so I doubt he would win with that Cavs outfit.... same goes for Kobe.
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Curry: 0x Finals MVP
Re: Replace Lebron With Kobe on the Cavs from 06-10
Some keep saying Lebron played with the "perfect" role players. But what people are forgetting that's the Cavs were. 1 super star and a bunch of role players. There was no legit 2nd option and they have no inside scoring aside from one year of shaq. Who miss 1/3 of the season. So do think Kobe could take a Cavs team to the title that had a supporting cast more similar to the 94 Rockers than the 2010 Lakers? I really don't see it. Especially when Kobe has been heavily reliant on elite big men to help advance him further in the playoffs.
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Lol
Re: Replace Lebron With Kobe on the Cavs from 06-10
I fail to see how Kobe could do as well as lbj did with the cavs let alone top it. Lebron is better at carrying weak teams IMO.
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Curry: 0x Finals MVP
Re: Replace Lebron With Kobe on the Cavs from 06-10
Originally Posted by The_Yearning
Jordan and Hakeem maybe... Shaq is no. Whose going to be the closer and who will Shaq rely on from double teams??
Agreed. If Shaq fouls out than you are relying on Larry Hughes (06-08) or Mo Williams (08-10) to carry the offense.
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NBA Superstar
Re: Replace Lebron With Kobe on the Cavs from 06-10
Especially when Kobe has been heavily reliant on elite big men to help advance him further in the playoffs.
No team goes deep in the playoffs WITHOUT elite big men
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