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2nd Greatest Player
Re: 1991 Chicago Bulls vs 2012 Oklahoma City Thunders
Originally Posted by Gil Renard
How did your hero Duncan do as the leader of the 2004 Olympic team?
He is Kobetard pretending to be a Duncan fan.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 1991 Chicago Bulls vs 2012 Oklahoma City Thunders
MJ > KD
Pippen = Westbrook
Grant < Ibaka
Armstrong < Harden
Overall the Thunder are definitely more talented, Jordan and Pippen are a better duo than KD & Russ but when you throw in arguably the greatest 6th man ever in James Harden and a top 3 shot blocker in Ibaka i have got to go with OKC
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Re: 1991 Chicago Bulls vs 2012 Oklahoma City Thunders
Again OKC was a soft jump shooting team built for this no physicality era, under old rules Bulls in 4 on blowouts and under the new rules Bulls in 4 by a margin of 10 points per game.
Here's Kobe and Vince describing this sad era perfectly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v9IJp5Oc6g&t=34s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk4xFL011XE&t=9s
The Thunder were a team similar to the 80's Nuggets, early 90's Run TMC Warriors and 7 seconds or less Suns the only difference is they were lead by 3 baby mental midgets in Durant who ran to GS the minute he had the chance, Russell "dumb as a rock" Westbrook and James Harden who's proven to be just a volume chucker with the biggest green light to bomb away in the history of the game.
The 98' Utah Jazz would've trounced them also. they eliminated Olajuwon/Drexler/Barkley, Duncan/Robinson/Elliot and Shaq/Kobe along with two other all-stars in successive rounds in the WC playoffs. Only the magnitude of MJ and the Bulls basically running on fumes stopped them from a title.
The 2013 Spurs were also old as dirt so that leaves the 16' who people forget had an underwhelming playoffs almost getting beat by OKC and having Harrison Barnes and Donkey Green as the 3th and 4th offensive options.
Basically LeBron had no epic wins either in the Finals and definitely not in the EC playoffs which has been possibly the worst conference in sports history since 1999!
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: 1991 Chicago Bulls vs 2012 Oklahoma City Thunders
Originally Posted by Showtime80'
Again OKC was a soft jump shooting team built for this no physicality era, under old rules Bulls in 4 on blowouts and under the new rules Bulls in 4 by a margin of 10 points per game.
Here's Kobe and Vince describing this sad era perfectly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v9IJp5Oc6g&t=34s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk4xFL011XE&t=9s
The Thunder were a team similar to the 80's Nuggets, early 90's Run TMC Warriors and 7 seconds or less Suns the only difference is they were lead by 3 baby mental midgets in Durant who ran to GS the minute he had the chance, Russell "dumb as a rock" Westbrook and James Harden who's proven to be just a volume chucker with the biggest green light to bomb away in the history of the game.
The 98' Utah Jazz would've trounced them also. they eliminated Olajuwon/Drexler/Barkley, Duncan/Robinson/Elliot and Shaq/Kobe along with two other all-stars in successive rounds in the WC playoffs. Only the magnitude of MJ and the Bulls basically running on fumes stopped them from a title.
The 2013 Spurs were also old as dirt so that leaves the 16' who people forget had an underwhelming playoffs almost getting beat by OKC and having Harrison Barnes and Donkey Green as the 3th and 4th offensive options.
Basically LeBron had no epic wins either in the Finals and definitely not in the EC playoffs which has been possibly the worst conference in sports history since 1999!
I love how context is provided for this era, but OP makes no mention that Houston team was "old as dirt", that Kobe was 19 and coming off the bench, and Duncan was a rookie when the Jazz beat them.
You talk about opposition, that Thunder team swept Dirk and the defending champs, beat Kobe & the Lakers in 5, then beat the Duncan/Parker/Manu/Pop Spurs who were on a 20 game winning streak.
And yeah, defeating a 73 win team with 3 All-NBA players and the first unanimous MVP in history isn't an "epic" Finals win
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2nd Greatest Player
Re: 1991 Chicago Bulls vs 2012 Oklahoma City Thunders
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
I love how context is provided for this era, but OP makes no mention that Houston team was "old as dirt", that Kobe was 19 and coming off the bench, and Duncan was a rookie when the Jazz beat them.
You talk about opposition, that Thunder team swept Dirk and the defending champs, beat Kobe & the Lakers in 5, then beat the Duncan/Parker/Manu/Pop Spurs who were on a 20 game winning streak.
And yeah, defeating a 73 win team with 3 All-NBA players and the first unanimous MVP in history isn't an "epic" Finals win
That troll hates LeBron, and 2000's and beyond basketball. I already put him in my ignore lists.
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Re: 1991 Chicago Bulls vs 2012 Oklahoma City Thunders
Kobe seems to "hate" 2000's NBA as well. Here he is talking about another factor that has ruined the league, AAU:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEyKG1jMEE8
LOL!
The 98' Jazz beat the 61 win Lakers led by a monster version of Shaq flanked by 3 all-star players which had the #1 offense in the league and the 56 win Spurs which had the #1 defense in the league.
A 22 y/o Tim Duncan in 1998 who won rookie of the year and played like a 5 year vet had better stats across the board than the 35 y/o 2012 watered down version not to mention David Robinson in 1998 was better than EVERYBODY on the 2012 Spurs including Tim Duncan and ROOKIE Kawhit.
The 2012 Mavs and Lakers were both middle of the road teams in wins, offense and defense led by past their primes Kobe and Dirk. The Mavs in particular were one the weakest champions of all time (kicked LeBald's as! in the process) and had one of the worst defenses of a title. These were not good teams.
If it weren't for the greatest player of all time putting out all the stops in 97 and 98 the Jazz would be remembered as one of the top teams of all time and Malone/Stockton would've shot up the all-time rankings.
The 2012 OKC Thunder on the other hand were a forgettable one hit wonder era specific team led by three mental midgets, a "big man" who's allergic to the paint and a lower tear coach in Scott Brooks. That team would've had their heads explode if they had to match wits with Jackson/Jordan/Pippen or Sloan/Malone/Stockton in a 7 game series or any of the teams in posted above for that matter.
A team were Russell Brickhouse plays a prominent role is not winning anything in ANY ERA!
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NBA lottery pick
Re: 1991 Chicago Bulls vs 2012 Oklahoma City Thunders
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
Bro, wtf are you talking about? The '91 Bulls had Jordan at his apex, and just strictly by overall performance were definitely better than the '93 or '98 teams. And '91 was Pippen's best playoff run
so what if MJ was at his apex - he was carrying the team - the team wasn't as cohesive and they hadn't honed their defense
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Decent playground baller
Re: 1991 Chicago Bulls vs 2012 Oklahoma City Thunders
Originally Posted by Showtime80'
Again OKC was a soft jump shooting team built for this no physicality era, under old rules Bulls in 4 on blowouts and under the new rules Bulls in 4 by a margin of 10 points per game.
Here's Kobe and Vince describing this sad era perfectly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v9IJp5Oc6g&t=34s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk4xFL011XE&t=9s
The Thunder were a team similar to the 80's Nuggets, early 90's Run TMC Warriors and 7 seconds or less Suns the only difference is they were lead by 3 baby mental midgets in Durant who ran to GS the minute he had the chance, Russell "dumb as a rock" Westbrook and James Harden who's proven to be just a volume chucker with the biggest green light to bomb away in the history of the game.
The 98' Utah Jazz would've trounced them also. they eliminated Olajuwon/Drexler/Barkley, Duncan/Robinson/Elliot and Shaq/Kobe along with two other all-stars in successive rounds in the WC playoffs. Only the magnitude of MJ and the Bulls basically running on fumes stopped them from a title.
The 2013 Spurs were also old as dirt so that leaves the 16' who people forget had an underwhelming playoffs almost getting beat by OKC and having Harrison Barnes and Donkey Green as the 3th and 4th offensive options.
Basically LeBron had no epic wins either in the Finals and definitely not in the EC playoffs which has been possibly the worst conference in sports history since 1999!
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Banned
Re: 1991 Chicago Bulls vs 2012 Oklahoma City Thunders
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
I love how context is provided for this era, but OP makes no mention that Houston team was "old as dirt", that Kobe was 19 and coming off the bench, and Duncan was a rookie when the Jazz beat them.
You talk about opposition, that Thunder team swept Dirk and the defending champs, beat Kobe & the Lakers in 5, then beat the Duncan/Parker/Manu/Pop Spurs who were on a 20 game winning streak.
And yeah, defeating a 73 win team with 3 All-NBA players and the first unanimous MVP in history isn't an "epic" Finals win
Quick, concise, thorough execution. Demolition complete.
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2nd Greatest Player
Re: 1991 Chicago Bulls vs 2012 Oklahoma City Thunders
Jordan never beat any teams as good or even better as the 2012 OKC Thunder.
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Decent playground baller
Re: 1991 Chicago Bulls vs 2012 Oklahoma City Thunders
Originally Posted by Lebron23
Jordan never beat any teams as good or even better as the 2012 OKC Thunder.
97 Jazz are better than the Okc.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ording-to-elo/
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Re: 1991 Chicago Bulls vs 2012 Oklahoma City Thunders
Originally Posted by Lebron23
Jordan never beat any teams as good or even better as the 2012 OKC Thunder.
You retard. Thunder were a bunch of early 20 year olds and Harden was a bench player.
Love the mental gymnastics you retards need to do in order to artificially inflate LeBron's legend.
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2nd Greatest Player
Re: 1991 Chicago Bulls vs 2012 Oklahoma City Thunders
Originally Posted by ZenMaster7210
Thunder would beat them. Lmao at stockton and hornacek guarding westbrook and harden.
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2nd Greatest Player
Re: 1991 Chicago Bulls vs 2012 Oklahoma City Thunders
Originally Posted by IllegalD
You retard. Thunder were a bunch of early 20 year olds and Harden was a bench player.
Love the mental gymnastics you retards need to do in order to artificially inflate LeBron's legend.
Same Thunder team who dethroned the nba champion Dallas Mavericks.
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Re: 1991 Chicago Bulls vs 2012 Oklahoma City Thunders
Originally Posted by Lebron23
Thunder would beat them. Lmao at stockton and hornacek guarding westbrook and harden.
LMAO at Ibaka guarding Malone.
And Stockton doesn't need to guard Westbrook. Westbrook does a great job of guarding himself with his low IQ, reckless play.
Harden was a bench player...
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