ISH All-Time List: Vote on #7 Now.

[Artillery]

Griff you're on a forum that earlier today picked Dirk > Kobe by a large margin.

Of course Dirk's ahead of Kirby. Swept that ass on the way to a title. Put Phil into permanent retirement. RAPM has him ahead too.

[305Baller]

Magic

[rmt]

Why is this thread still open? Surely it's been decided by now. Let's move on.

[IMObjective]

Of course Dirk's ahead of Kirby. Swept that ass on the way to a title. Put Phil into permanent retirement. RAPM has him ahead too.

One time. In fact, everyone was so used to seeing the Lakers rape the mavericks that not one person outside of Dallas was picking the mavs in that series. the mavs were just on a mission that year and I think Kobe was dealing with injuries.

[K Xerxes]

Why is this thread still open? Surely it's been decided by now. Let's move on.

OP probably curled up in the fetal position about how Kobe isn't top #7. Project abandoned.

[LAZERUSS]

Magic was in the most stacked team ever. Weakest conference ever. Big name but not top 5.
DEFENSE is a big ass part of the game.
Magic is number 9 or 10 on my list.

I get so tired of this MYTH that Magic's teams played in the weakest conference. How many people here know that in their 12 years in the league together, Magic's teams held a 13-11 edge in beating 50+ win teams over Bird's teams (yes, it includes the Finals)? Or that Magic's teams held a 3-1 advantage over Bird's in beating 60+ win teams (including his 90-91 season, and without Kareem)?

Or that Bird's teams were also beating patsies in their playoff runs. Bird's teams beat 41-41, 43-39, 43-39, 35-47, 36-46, 30-52, 40-42, 38-44, and 41-41 teams in his 12 years in the league with Magic. They also lost seven times with HCA, including a team with a 45-37 record, and another team that had a 51-31 record that swept Bird's team.

Bird's team LOST to the 59-23 Sixers in '80, 4-1, a team that Magic's Lakers would win in a romp, 4-2 (and won the clinching game, in Philly, without KAJ.) Bird's team lost to the 58-24 Sixers in '82, 4-3. The same team that Magic's Lakers beat handily, 4-2. How about the vaunted '83 Sixers? Bird's Celtics didn't even play them. They were getting swept in the previous round by a 51-31 Bucks team. And Bird's '88 Celtics were shellacked by the Pistons...a team that Magic's Lakers would beat 4-3.

Again, this perception that Magic's teams just cakewalked thru the playoffs, while Bird's teams were going thru grueling series against super-powers has been proven to be a MYTH.

[Cold soul]

OP probably curled up in the fetal position about how Kobe isn't top #7. Project abandoned.

This might be the case on ISH, but not in real world fans have Kobe ranked higher. In any event it's a real shame Magic voted at #7 he should be top 5.

[russwest0]

I'm trying not to over saturate this thing

Magic won the vote in a landslide. Will make the new thread now