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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Zaza
    Which years was he the best center? Wasn't Shaq always the best center until Dwight. Hell, Amare playing C in Phx was better.
    no. it was shaq, then yao for a short time, now dwight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rezznor
    dwight. yao. name me any another center who deserved to start over him when he was playing at his peak. (discount the years he got voted in while injured, i agree that was bullshit).
    There was never a moment in either of their careers when a healthy Amare wasn't >> a healthy Yao.

    Quote Originally Posted by rezznor
    Yao also bridged the gap between China (guess how many people they have?!) and USA. #1 pitchman is a no brainer.
    Ok - so this means his play merited the attention he received?

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    i wonder if barkley still thinks yao was a bust

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Zaza
    Which years was he the best center? Wasn't Shaq always the best center until Dwight. Hell, Amare playing C in Phx was better.
    05 on....most complete offensive game, good enough rebounder, great passer, played decent defense. Shaq was way past his prime and Dwight was too raw of a player. Amar'e playing C in Phx was never the best anything. Ever.

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    Default Re: Yao Ming retires from the NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Zaza
    There was never a moment in either of their careers when a healthy Amare wasn't >> a healthy Yao.



    Ok - so this means his play merited the attention he received?

    of course it does. do you even know what a pitchman does?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rezznor
    no. it was shaq, then yao for a short time, now dwight.
    What year was Yao better than Shaq?

    Yao's best year was 06-07, when he played 50 games. Howard played 82, scored a little less, but did everything else better.

    Yao was NEVER the best C in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Zaza
    What year was Yao better than Shaq?

    Yao's best year was 06-07, when he played 50 games. Howard played 82, scored a little less, but did everything else better.

    Yao was NEVER the best C in the game.


    Amar'e playing C in PHX was better than Yao.....

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    sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejumpa
    05 on....most complete offensive game, good enough rebounder, great passer, played decent defense. Shaq was way past his prime and Dwight was too raw of a player. Amar'e playing C in Phx was never the best anything. Ever.
    05? There was one season where he played 70 games post-05. Howard was already better, Shaq was still better.

    But I'm interested in the Amare theory -- how was Yao better...I'm sure its going to be a defense answer, because if Yao was one thing, it was GREAT on defense (keep beleiving that).

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    Quote Originally Posted by rezznor
    of course it does. do you even know what a pitchman does?
    Please explain how the play of the -- at his very best 15th best player in the league -- merits being the #1 TV personality for the league. Seems ot be a 15 place disparity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Zaza
    Yeah, "pretty good" exactly. Not starting all-star. Not #1 pick. Not #1 pitch man.

    He was pretty good. We agree.
    At his peak, who should have started over Yao?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Zaza
    Which years was he the best center? Wasn't Shaq always the best center until Dwight. Hell, Amare playing C in Phx was better.
    Shaq then Yao then Dwight. It was never Amare.

    Amare took the All NBA team over Yao was because Yao missed too many games.

    06-07 - Amare 1st team - Yao only played 48 games
    07-08 - Amare 2nd team - Yao only played 55 games

    Amare was horrible on the defensive end. Even to this day, Amare can't play a lick of defense and is a horrible rebounder.

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    This guy was easily becoming the best center in the league. He had stretches of games (before injuries) where he was just destroying the competition. Goddamn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Zaza
    05? There was one season where he played 70 games post-05. Howard was already better, Shaq was still better.

    But I'm interested in the Amare theory -- how was Yao better...I'm sure its going to be a defense answer, because if Yao was one thing, it was GREAT on defense (keep beleiving that).
    When did I say Yao was great on defense? I'll wait.

    Howard in his 2nd year was better than Yao? Really? Because I watched a lot of ball back then and never heard anyone saying he was better. Sure, they were compared, but anyone could tell that Dwight didn't have the moves to compete with Yao. Dwight wasn't on some elite level defensively back then either.

    You can't be serious about Amar'e. Sure, he was the best PF for a short period of time, but never the best C. That's a fact. He was(and still is) a black hole on defense and has never been able to pass like Yao. Didn't have the footwork...couldn't shoot like him. His game is strictly power and athleticism-based. Nothing wrong with that, but not worthy of a best C in teh game title. That goes to real centers...you know, guys who are actually interested in playing defense and rebounding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuMa
    sad
    Why sad? Look at your avy. He is happy!!

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