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Mozart Basketball
Why is it that players from Australia/New Zealand have a bad rep for "playing dirty"?
http://www.csnbayarea.com/warriors/p...st-players-nba
"The Times asked 24 NBA coaches, assistants and players to rank the top five dirtiest players in the league. Responses were given anonymously and according to the newspaper, some of those polled cast more than one vote.
Dellavedova received 13 votes, by far the most, as the dirtiest player in the league. Oklahoma City's Steven Adams came in second with seven votes.
Warriors center, and Dellavedova's countrymen, Andrew Bogut ranked third with five votes."
That rugby influence.
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Our Lord & Savior
Re: Why is it that players from Australia/New Zealand have a bad rep for "playing dirty"?
Growing up playing Aussie football or rugby would do it lmao
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15x all nba legend
Re: Why is it that players from Australia/New Zealand have a bad rep for "playing dirty"?
because if you are white and play a gritty style where you aren't afraid to mix it up you are automatically considered to be a dirty player
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Re: Why is it that players from Australia/New Zealand have a bad rep for "playing dirty"?
Just saw this and was gonna post it.
I think it's a culture thing, we grow up here playing football, rugby and cricket. Part of the game of football is pushing/elbowing/bumping your player off the ball and intimidating them, it starts before the ball is even bounced and the game has even begun. During play if you can tackle/hip and shoulder someone hard enough to keep them down it's encouraged and practiced. We even practiced like that when I played in under 15s on a serious club that was trying to win grand finals. You didn't want to seriously injure anyone but if you could wind them or make them scared that was part of the game.
People think cricket is a "gentleman's game" but again part of the Australian culture in cricket is sledging (insulting) and making the other team uncomfortable/getting them angry so they slip up. Part of the game is bowling bouncers at batsman's heads to try and intimidate them and get them out or stop them trying to play shots. Look at the ashes (a big series) where we had the then Australian captain Michael Clarke caught on mic threatening that he was going to have his fast bowlers try to break another players arm. You have bowlers who catch the ball after their delivery and then throw the ball back at the batsman making like they are trying to run him out. A huge part of cricket is the mental game, having the mind set to get behind a ball coming at 90+ miles bouncing off an unpredictable pitch at unpredictable heights/lengths/lines and staying focused over LONG periods (sometimes a full day) without a lapse in concentration, if you can get in their head and make them over think/scared then it is a legit tactic.
Add in that a lot of these guys probably went in to the league with a bias against them coming from countries that aren't known for producing basketballers and coming from countries where they weren't raised as athlete prodigies like an American basketballer is if he is the best in his neighbourhood and I think they use that attitude to get a bit of an edge.
I'm not sure I would say they are the dirtiest players though, Delly had the high profile play offs run which was unfortunate but aside from his actions there I don't think what they do is up there with the guys who've untied other players shoe laces, thrown shoes away when someone loses it, pulled players shorts down at the free throw line, thrown violent elbows or seriously hard fouled etc
Last edited by outbreak; 01-17-2016 at 05:58 PM.
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Titles are overrated
Re: Why is it that players from Australia/New Zealand have a bad rep for "playing dirty"?
because if you are white and play a gritty style where you aren't afraid to mix it up you are automatically considered to be a dirty player
Kirk Hinrich isnt.
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Bad Username
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High School Varsity 6th Man
Re: Why is it that players from Australia/New Zealand have a bad rep for "playing dirty"?
Last edited by BigMacAttack; 01-17-2016 at 06:20 PM.
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High School Varsity 6th Man
Re: Why is it that players from Australia/New Zealand have a bad rep for "playing dirty"?
Aussies and Kiwis come for a culture where you don't need to be completely covered in pads to play a collision sport. Being white non Americans also plays a part no doubt.
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The Paterfamilias
Re: Why is it that players from Australia/New Zealand have a bad rep for "playing dirty"?
I'm still amazed that players consider Korver's injury "dirty" on Delly's part. The guy dove for a loose basketball while Korver stood there and looked at it. How on earth was that a dirty play?
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Re: Why is it that players from Australia/New Zealand have a bad rep for "playing dirty"?
Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
I'm still amazed that players consider Korver's injury "dirty" on Delly's part. The guy dove for a loose basketball while Korver stood there and looked at it. How on earth was that a dirty play?
numerous ex nba players stated it's an unspoken rule not to dive directly in to other players legs
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5-time NBA All-Star
Re: Why is it that players from Australia/New Zealand have a bad rep for "playing dirty"?
Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
I'm still amazed that players consider Korver's injury "dirty" on Delly's part. The guy dove for a loose basketball while Korver stood there and looked at it. How on earth was that a dirty play?
I would say it's deliberately negligent.
He dives for balls and turns his body into the player after he dives, so that he gains possession. Very effective and commonly used in the AFL.
However it does mean you will hit the opposing player down low at reasonable speed.
So he may not be deliberately injuring, but he is deliberately employing a maneuver that increases risk of landing on player with you body against their legs or head or whatever is close to the ball.
IMO he is deliberately setting out to have maximum contact with those tactics, with the knowledge it may injure, but he isn't deliberately injuring.
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Bear Chested Da Brawn
Re: Why is it that players from Australia/New Zealand have a bad rep for "playing dirty"?
it's a colony of ex convicts and felons
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3/8 is real
Re: Why is it that players from Australia/New Zealand have a bad rep for "playing dirty"?
Originally Posted by outbreak
numerous ex nba players stated it's an unspoken rule not to dive directly in to other players legs
Yet it's not an unspoken rule to dive at the crowd's legs to save a ball?
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Re: Why is it that players from Australia/New Zealand have a bad rep for "playing dirty"?
Originally Posted by Straight_Ballin
Yet it's not an unspoken rule to dive at the crowd's legs to save a ball?
If you think diving for a ball in to the crowd is the same as diving down against/in the path of a running athletes legs and knees are the same thing you have a screw loose....
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Sentenza
Re: Why is it that players from Australia/New Zealand have a bad rep for "playing dirty"?
Originally Posted by Straight_Ballin
Yet it's not an unspoken rule to dive at the crowd's legs to save a ball?
Gene Siskel in the front row.
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