The GREATEST All-Around Player: Bird vs LeBron

[CavaliersFTW]

You want to listen to a non-entertainer and an expert mind in the field talk about basketball, listen to the past legends, past coaches/players etc that have seen a lot. Journalists on ESPN only mention or show what gets them paid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMHyBqwCOYw

[CavaliersFTW]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JttE4UT74k

[knickswoman]

2 of the most overrated players. LOL

[Lebronxrings]

lebron and its not even close.

Bird = a poor mans durant.

[knickswoman]

lebron and its not even close.

Bird = a poor mans durant.

Then clearly you don't know sht about basketball

[played0ut]

good post. who would you take though?

Honestly? Bird.

Roundball said it best when comparing Lebron and MJ's impact. Pop Lebron on a crappy team and he can possibly give them more wins. But if you want to make a good team great? MJ would push his team to the top better than Lebron.


Bird vs Lebron

I think Lebron can garner more wins for a crappy team than Bird. But it's honestly the intangibles that will bring them to multiple championships. Bird (cut from same cloth as MJ/Russell/West) will DEMAND his team to put in the effort, and DEMAND his team to adopt a focused mind to win or die trying. That's my ONLY knock on Lebron-- he's not ferociously competitive enough and too nice of a guy to will his team to the next level.

Look at the '14 finals. He played splendidly. His teammates played like they were satisfied with two rings (which is still great).


I'm so ****ing annoyed that I lost the link to havlicek's quote, but here it is paraphrased:



"Trying to 3-peat is physically and mentally exhausting. You're tired and you've already proven yourselves and won 2.

But do you want to rest? Or do you want to make history?"


I'm picking Bird because he would motivate/force his team to 'make history', as opposed to Lebron.







Your thoughts?

[Round Mound]

Fundamentaly Skill Wise and B-Ball IQ Wise? Bird
Talent and Athlete Wise? Lebron

Big 0 Was A Mix of Both. So Maybe Big 0

[CavaliersFTW]

Fundamentaly Skill Wise and B-Ball IQ Wise? Bird
Talent and Athlete Wise? Lebron

Big 0 Was A Mix of Both. So Maybe Big 0

That reminds me, sir Charles is also in the mix of this discussion

[KirbyPls]

Honestly? Bird.

Roundball said it best when comparing Lebron and MJ's impact. Pop Lebron on a crappy team and he can possibly give them more wins. But if you want to make a good team great? MJ would push his team to the top better than Lebron.


Bird vs Lebron

I think Lebron can garner more wins for a crappy team than Bird. But it's honestly the intangibles that will bring them to multiple championships. Bird (cut from same cloth as MJ/Russell/West) will DEMAND his team to put in the effort, and DEMAND his team to adopt a focused mind to win or die trying. That's my ONLY knock on Lebron-- he's not ferociously competitive enough and too nice of a guy to will his team to the next level.

Look at the '14 finals. He played splendidly. His teammates played like they were satisfied with two rings (which is still great).


I'm so ****ing annoyed that I lost the link to havlicek's quote, but here it is paraphrased:



"Trying to 3-peat is physically and mentally exhausting. You're tired and you've already proven yourselves and won 2.

But do you want to rest? Or do you want to make history?"


I'm picking Bird because he would motivate/force his team to 'make history', as opposed to Lebron.







Your thoughts?

Interesting that Bird has only one more ring and couldn't repeat with stacked teams, and yet Lebron repeated and may well win as many or more rings than Bird.

[Dragic4Life]

Toss-up.

But I'll take Lebron if I were a GM.

[JohnFreeman]

LeBron

[houston]

lebron is better than bird dude ain't even 30 yet lol

[played0ut]

Interesting that Bird has only one more ring and couldn't repeat with stacked teams, and yet Lebron repeated and may well win as many or more rings than Bird.

heh that's what happens when you go up against 2 top-5 GOATs.

[LeBird]

I take Bird simply because the things he's better than Lebron at are more important for basketball than the things Lebron is better than Bird at.

[Dragic4Life]

I take Bird simply because the things he's better than Lebron at are more important than the things Lebron are better than Bird at.

Name these "more important" things please. Please.