Who is the GOAT: Kareem or MJ?

[BigBoss]

Kobe

[G0ATbe]

Kobe. Kareem is 2nd though.

[fiddy]

[LAZERUSS]

Neither.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Wilt > Kareem, so Kareem is immediately out of the discussion.

[SexSymbol]

Bill Russell and it's not even close.
He's the greatest leader, defender and winner of all time.

[Dragic4Life]

Kareem doesn't even deserve to be in the top 5 let alone GOAT.

[LAZERUSS]

Kareem doesn't even deserve to be in the top 5 let alone GOAT.

Yeah...the list of players with 6 MVPs and 6 rings is a long one.

[LAZERUSS]

Bill Russell and it's not even close.
He's the greatest leader, defender and winner of all time.

Russell has a case...but think about this:

In their 10 years in the league together, Chamberlain held a 7-2 margin in First-Team All-NBA selections over Russell.

[SexSymbol]

Kareem doesn't even deserve to be in the top 5 let alone GOAT.

Why do mods let this piece of shit get back to the forum?
Just ban him forever, ban his IP, don't let him or his alts post more. I don't think he even garners any attention anymore, he just says plain stupid shit that nobody gives a shit about and litters the forum whichever thread he's in.

[MP.Trey]

1. MJ
2. Russell
3. Kareem/Wilt (Hard to choose)

[SexSymbol]

Russell has a case...but think about this:

In their 10 years in the league together, Chamberlain held a 7-2 margin in First-Team All-NBA selections over Russell.

Irrelevant.
I don't give a shit about MVPs, all-nba selections, all-start selections or anything else except for rings as it is all that matters because every team, every player plays for that thing.
And when a player gets 11 rings which is unheard of from anybody else, there is no argument, he is the best player of all time, all others are just pretenders.
I do love Wilt, aside from all the times I trashed your opinion because of the way it was presented, and I think he's somewhere in the top 10, but when you have to grasp at all-nba selections, you know you're not gonna win the argument

[Uncle Drew]

Russell has a case...but think about this:

In their 10 years in the league together, Chamberlain held a 7-2 margin in First-Team All-NBA selections over Russell.

Thats nice. How many rings though?

[colts19]

It's pretty simple really.

Russell, the greatest winner of all time.
Wilt the greatest player of all time. As Larry Legend once said. Prople make me and Magic and Jordan the greatest of all time, they need to check the record book.

[LAZERUSS]

Thats nice. How many rings though?

RINGS are a TEAM accomplishment.

How come MJ's '86 Bulls were SWEPT by Bird's Celtics in the first round? I guess MJ hurt his team with that 44 ppg series, right?

And if MJ gets a pass because his 30-52 team was blown out by Bird's 67-15 team...then how about Wilt's teams throughout the 60's? Chamberlain took inept squads to nearly beating Russell's HOF-laden teams in '62 and '65 and had they had equal rosters, that were healthy, like '67...well, all you need to know is that Wilt and his TEAM just annihilated Russell and his eight-time defending champion Celtics.

Again...RINGS are a TEAM accomplishment.