6,337 to 5,987: An unbreakable record?

[aj1987]

All this means is that Lebron played in more playoff games.

Doesn't Kareem's all-time scoring record also mean that he just played more games than anyone else?

[TheCorporation]

All this means is that Lebron played in more playoff games.

Ohh, so then losing in the 1st round three times actually is bad and advancing and making the Finals is better?


Thanks for proving my point

[3ball]

Ohh, so then losing in the 1st round three times actually is bad and advancing and [COLOR="Navy"]making the Finals is better[/COLOR]?

^^^ MJ made the Finals 6 times, so what are you talking about..


Jordan:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 6 conference finals wins + 6 Finals wins = 12 wins
LeBron:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 9 conference finals wins + 3 Finals wins = 12 wins

Jordan's 3 extra Finals wins > Lebron's 3 extra conference finals wins..


It's like lebron can't beat the top level that well (championship), so he beats the next level below as many times as possible.. that hella weak, and not goat obviously...

[Kblaze8855]

That's cool and all, but LeBron has like 700 more points in only 2 more games played. So, unless Cap is capable of averaging 350 PPG in 2 games, you point is moot.

Kareem was 37 when they stopped having first round byes.

37.

And you could still win a series by taking the first two famed.

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[jstern]

Are you high, dude? You just cannot extrapolate like that.



LeBron over the past 4 Finals has been averaging 33/12/9/2/1 on 48% vs the Warriors. Are they "all time level weak" as well?


Man, only when it comes to LeBron do records not count, because " ".

Come on, use your head. Where did I said he's not capable of putting up good numbers against good competition. I wasn't even talking about Lebron, but how in the future a super all time great could easily come close if playing in an all time level weak conference. The point being that it will give them more opportunity to go on deeper playoff runs year after year. You know, more games.

[aj1987]

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]Kareem was 37 when they stopped having first round byes.

37.

And you could still win a series by taking the first two famed.

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[Kblaze8855]

Even if you look at just PPG, LeBron James has like 5 PPG on KAJ. Even if he falls 3 PPG as you suggest, LeBron would be comfortably ahead of Kareem, while playing a shit ton of more games.

You can try to diminish this as much as you want, but you just cannot.

I dont need to dimish it. I need only for common sense to be applied.

Jerry West loses the finals in 5 games after scoring 447 points in the playoffs. Lebron scored more than that in 10 playoff runs.

But

Jerry scored 41ppg those playoffs.


Rick Barry took his team to game 6 of the finals. Had 521 points. Good for 8th most for a Lebron playoffs.

He scored 35ppg.


Kareem puts up 32ppg leading his team to the NBA title....and this is in the 80s. Has 479 points. Good for 11th best of Lebrons career. Wins the title. 32ppg.

11th best for Lebron.

I shouldnt have to explain this...

Career playoff totals are a joke for 2 reasons...

They are WORSE when you are more dominant. If you sweep every series you have worse totals than fighting for every series...despite playing better.

They obviously favor current players who never played with shorter or eliminated early rounds which are 99% of the time just a high seed stacking totals in a series that isnt competitive.


It doesnt matter who the player is. This subject first came up for me when Kobe fans were talking about him having the most 600 point playoff runs as if playing more dominant doesnt reduce totals....and ignoring that it would be possible to put up 74ppg and win the title and not have 600 points in some eras.

Its not a legit all time comparison because everyone doesnt have anything close to a fair chance. And even if they did....as I said....playing better REDUCES totals because you end a series faster.

Its nothing but trivia for people who arent thinking what they say through. Just use playoff PPG. And even that is hard while people are still playing.

Lebrons an elite playoff scorer. He just isnt the best. He just happens to play at a time where his totals can suggest it to people who dont know better. This shouldnt need explaining when 91 Jordan puts up 31ppg leading his team to a title and has less total playoff points than 2016 Kyrie(1 less to be exact).

[eliteballer]

[Rico2016]

No one will ever pass LeBron's post season points scored:



If 10 Finals, super longevity Kareem couldn't do it
If 6 Finals, I lost three times in first round MJ couldn't do it
If MDE Shaq couldn't do it
If most skilled Kobe scoring assassin couldn't do it

Only one man passed them all

King GOAT James #1

#2 Jordan
#3 Kareem

As it should be

100% not in 60 years brother

[Gileraracer]

He got the name 'Empty stat James' for a reason

[Wally450]

^^^ MJ made the Finals 6 times, so what are you talking about..


Jordan:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 6 conference finals wins + 6 Finals wins = 12 wins
LeBron:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 9 conference finals wins + 3 Finals wins = 12 wins

Jordan's 3 extra Finals wins > Lebron's 3 extra conference finals wins..


It's like lebron can't beat the top level that well (championship), so he beats the next level below as many times as possible.. that hella weak, and not goat obviously...

Now put Lebron against Jordan's opponents and Jordan against LeBron's opponents and see how many rings each gets.

[Overdrive]

Did I stutter? No one will ever pass LeBron's post season points scored.

Let's even give your boy Kareem another 25 points at 25 extra games for 500 extra.

Guess what? LeBron still has more.

25^2 = 625 which would put him at #1.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

lebron won't even make the playoffs this year and will get bounced in the first round the next 4 years if he manages to

durant already nearly has 4000 playoff points and is only 29 years old.


he'll f*cking destroy lebrons record you absolute f@cking moron

No, because Durant doesn't Fck around and let teams like Indiana go 7 games. Last 9 finals games Durant has won 8 of them.


These kids are bragging about participation trophies. If he has so many playoff points then why hasn't that parlayed into more rings?
1*/9 Leroids.
Only stat that matters = Lebron will never have - 6 FMVP trophies.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Lebrons an elite playoff scorer. He just isnt the best. He just happens to play at a time where his totals can suggest it to people who dont know better. This shouldnt need explaining when 91 Jordan puts up 31ppg leading his team to a title and has less total playoff points than 2016 Kyrie(1 less to be exact).

Excellent post, and I have KAJ at #2 all time and certainly feel people that think he's the GOAT aren't wrong.
Has anyone scored more in a single playoff season than Jordan did in 93?
Anyone know?

[FKAri]

Lebrons an elite playoff scorer. He just isnt the best. He just happens to play at a time where his totals can suggest it to people who dont know better. This shouldnt need explaining when 91 Jordan puts up 31ppg leading his team to a title and has less total playoff points than 2016 Kyrie(1 less to be exact).

Lebron's an opportunistic scorer. Probably the GOAT opportunistic scorer. He is incredible at finding weaknesses in the defense and exploiting it. But he is unable to overpower great defenses on the level that some of the elite scorers could.