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Re: The top 5 GOAT shooters
I just think people overrate Bird as a shooter and underrate Nash as one
He shot his best 3pt %s when he took the most amounts
47% on 4.7 attempts, while only getting assisted on .425 of threes
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Re: The top 5 GOAT shooters
He's an all time great 3pt shooter, obviously not as good as Curry (Nobody is)
But Nash by the numbers is a better shooter from pretty much every other distance
I understand the volume concern, but Nash shot the best % wise from every area on the court, when he scored the most points
The whole volume/efficiency thing I do understand, but you have to take into account team roles... Nash had to facilitate an entire offense and get others going
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Good college starter
Re: The top 5 GOAT shooters
Originally Posted by Dragonyeuw
Nash picked his spots differently. Curry's at a point where past the half-court line, you have to automatically start thinking about where and when he's going to launch a 3, and his shot is so fast that's going to consume the defender's thoughts.
This. You have to take in consideration how much of nash efficiency is attributed to his ability to pick his shots. The man was great at it. Wether he was assisted on or created it.
When you are the best dam passer in the league as nash was. And a pass first guy defenders will be concentrated alot on team defense and wont over commit to defending your shot. Nash knew this very well. Yes i know he had a great shot no doubt. But he never got swarmed and shot defended like bird or curry did/does.
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Re: The top 5 GOAT shooters
Nash in the 05 playoffs averaged 24/11 and shot 56% from midrange while taking .227 of his shots there
Curry is the better 3pt shooter
Nash is the better midrange shooter
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The triggerer
Re: The top 5 GOAT shooters
Larry Bird averaged 29.9PPG in 87-88 while shooting .556 / .414 / .916
crazy efficiency with high volume whereas Steve Nash never averaged more than 18.8 with similiar numbers (.548 / .439 / .921)
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Re: The top 5 GOAT shooters
Originally Posted by GIF REACTION
Nash in the 05 playoffs averaged 24/11 and shot 56% from midrange while taking .227 of his shots there
Curry is the better 3pt shooter
Nash is the better midrange shooter
And the theoretically the further you are from the basket the harder it is to make the shot??
Thus making curry the better shooter??
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Re: The top 5 GOAT shooters
Originally Posted by NZStreetBaller
And the theoretically the further you are from the basket the harder it is to make the shot??
Thus making curry the better shooter??
But then Curry should be a better mid ranger shooter no?
Nash is simply a better midrange shooter
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Re: The top 5 GOAT shooters
Originally Posted by NZStreetBaller
1.steph curry
2.larry bird
3.steve nash
4.dirk nowitski
5.kevin durant.
Any objections??
Curry
Jerry West
Dirk
Nash
Bird
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Re: The top 5 GOAT shooters
Originally Posted by GIF REACTION
But then Curry should be a better mid ranger shooter no?
Nash is simply a better midrange shooter
You could say that. But curry is still the better overall shooter.
If curry and bird had the passing ability of nash and the highly effective shot selection with a similar level of volume. I seriously believe they would have higher percentgaes.
The percentages they have with the shots they take and the volume is just downright incredible.
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Re: The top 5 GOAT shooters
Originally Posted by feyki
Curry
Jerry West
Dirk
Nash
Bird
I dnt knw enough history to rate jerry west sorry.
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Cavs for life
Re: The top 5 GOAT shooters
Bird is overrated as a pure shooter. You could make a case that he is top 5 overall, but he's not top 5 as a shooter.
649 career 3's on 37.6% shooting is not that impressive.
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Good college starter
Re: The top 5 GOAT shooters
Like i said. Imo the numbers nash has are a result of being the 3rd greatest shooter in the history of the game and shot selection plus hus passing threat allows him a little bit more offensive freedom.
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Re: The top 5 GOAT shooters
Overrated: Bird (3pt %s were pedestrian)
Underated: Nash (gets looked over due to lack of volume, despite all evidence showing great shooting when higher scoring volume)
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College superstar
Re: The top 5 GOAT shooters
Originally Posted by GIF REACTION
But then Curry should be a better mid ranger shooter no?
Nash is simply a better midrange shooter
You have to account for volume, whether it be of his own creativity or assisted Curry is giving you 6 more points than Nash( right now 15, but he's not going to maintain a 33ppg avg as the season goes) with half his shots being a tougher shot( the 3). Curry's ability to hit the kind of 3's he does off the dribble, highly contested with that volume while maintaining accuracy, is the evolution of what Nash did.
Finally, I think the threat of Nash's passing ability is what set up alot of his scoring, and its the inverse for Curry.
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NBA Legend
Re: The top 5 GOAT shooters
Drazen Petrovic
Reggie Miller
Larry Bird
Ray Allen
Chris Mullin / Glen Rice
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