Which one was overrated John Stockton Or Karl Malone?

[plowking]

don't forget john crotty

Don't forget you're a homosexual.

[godofgods]

Neither. Both are underrated.

Overrated? That's Kobe. Payton. Amare.

[NinjaSeal]

stockton = best longetivity pg
malone = best longtivity pf


malone joining the lakers was disrespectful

[fefe]

What in the hell are better "pg stats"? Payton had better stats.
Stockton had more steals? That's awesome and all, though Payton was twice the defender, hell even more.

Isiah doesn't have a case in stats? 21ppg, 14apg, 5rpg along with 2 steals is better than anything Stockton could dream of doing. And his career averages of 19 and 9 are better than Stockton's.
Also Gary's 24/9/7/2 seasons is better than Stockton has ever done.
Both are more accomplished as well.

Disregard the PPG above 15, because a real PG should not score more than that.
You get that Stockton has the best PG stats.

[Horatio33]

malone was overrated. they used the pick and roll more than any other duo ever. stockton nearly averaged 15 assists a game one year. and holds the record for career. who recieved most of those passes?

also malone ws anti-clutch. stockton was pretty clutch.

i think stockton is a bit overrated, but malone is massivly overrated.

[2LeTTeRS]

Disregard the PPG above 15, because a real PG should not score more than that.
You get that Stockton has the best PG stats.

Says who? A real PG should do whatever he can to put points on the board. This seems like something your just pulling out of your ass so you can say Stockton is better.

[fefe]

Says who? A real PG should do whatever he can to put points on the board. This seems like something your just pulling out of your ass so you can say Stockton is better.

Says me... Of course this is just my opinion...
something that we share on the forums...

I don't think a PG's job is to score. You think it is.
I rate Stockton above Payton as a PG, you don't.
I'm ok with having a different opinion from yours... I think you should be ok with it as well ;)

[L.A. Jazz]

i loved both of them back in the 90s. but i have to say the Jazz teams were not that good.they play perfect team basketball. 2 allstar players and lots of good guys.but none of them was a guy you could give the ball and score in the clutch.

Jordan, Kobe, Wade, Ginobili, Pierce,... the Jazz didnt have such a player.
a system can bring you this far, but to win it all you need such a guy.
Malone (my childhood hero) wasnt that player and Stockton did everything well on the court and was clutch when open but was not the best shot creator for himself. (due to his height and athletic disadvantage)

i love watching Sloans teams play basketball the right way, but you need closers for broken plays in clutch situations and the Jazz never had that.

[WoGiTaLiA1]

I don't think a PG's job is to score. You think it is. I'm ok with having a different opinion from yours... I think you should be ok with it as well ;)

That's just wrong. A PG's job is to lead and create opportunities for his team, whether that means creating them for himself or for teammates. Some of the best PGs were better scorers than creators.

As for Stockton, he is the best pure PG the league has seen. Magic was a better player, Thomas and Robertson have cases. Stockton is rated right about where he should be, in the best 5 players to play PG in the NBA with perhaps the 2nd best career of the bunch and certainly better than anyone doing it right now.

Malone likewise is hard to overrate. There are only two players with a case as having better careers at PF(Barkley and Duncan) so unless someone is saying he is flat out better than either of those guys all of a sudden he isn't getting overrated either.

Not winning titles in the 80s and 90s isnt the same as today, back then teams were loaded. Check the teams that were in the west back then.

Seattle were like the Suns only with defense. They had a better PF and a better PG, they made one finals series and lost.

The Rockets had a center that was better than any player in the league now and a SG that was as good as most and beyond that they had very good role players. Check the Spurs, right now they are like the mid 90's Rockets only Duncan can't touch prime Hakeem.

Portland when they had Drexler were awesome, Kevin Duckworth would be in the best couple of centers right now and he was just a scrub on that team.

Phoenix had scary talent. KJ was like CP3 before CP3 only instead of West he had Barkley.

Prior to that you had the Magic lead Lakers.

Spurs had Robinson, again better than anyone playing right now and damn solid role players.

Hell check out the bad teams and they had scary talent, teams like the Mutombo Nuggets.

Honestly, making the WCF in the 90s was as much of an achievement as winning a title right now is because that is how much talent it took to get it done.

[2LeTTeRS]

That's just wrong. A PG's job is to lead and create opportunities for his team, whether that means creating them for himself or for teammates. Some of the best PGs were better scorers than creators.

As for Stockton, he is the best pure PG the league has seen. Magic was a better player, Thomas and Robertson have cases. Stockton is rated right about where he should be, in the best 5 players to play PG in the NBA with perhaps the 2nd best career of the bunch and certainly better than anyone doing it right now.

Malone likewise is hard to overrate. There are only two players with a case as having better careers at PF(Barkley and Duncan) so unless someone is saying he is flat out better than either of those guys all of a sudden he isn't getting overrated either.

I agreed with you up until about here, after that you put your 90s glasses on and started overrated all the teams that played back then.

[MastahX]

Stockton was best PG ever to play the game and create plays.
Magic was the overall better player, but not as pure of a PG than Stockton.

[plowking]

Disregard the PPG above 15, because a real PG should not score more than that.
You get that Stockton has the best PG stats.

The point of basketball is to score points.
I guess Stockton>Magic since he doesn't fit under your rule.
I guess Paul sucks as well since he averages like 22 and 11...

Your argument is dumber than the typical "this guy was a better *insert position*, but this guy was the better player"...


EDIT: Oh god, I knew some retard would post it.

Stockton was best PG ever to play the game and create plays.
Magic was the overall better player, but not as pure of a PG than Stockton.

[ProfessorMurder]

malone was overrated. they used the pick and roll more than any other duo ever. stockton nearly averaged 15 assists a game one year. and holds the record for career. who recieved most of those passes?

also malone ws anti-clutch. stockton was pretty clutch.

i think stockton is a bit overrated, but malone is massivly overrated.

You're a f*cking idiot.

How is it a bad thing to use an unstoppable pick and roll? Or pass to your best player?

[phoenix18]

Don't forget you're a homosexual.

Back to the topic, which one is overrated? Neither.


and we're onto the next one...

[fefe]

The point of basketball is to score points.
I guess Stockton>Magic since he doesn't fit under your rule.
I guess Paul sucks as well since he averages like 22 and 11...

Your argument is dumber than the typical "this guy was a better *insert position*, but this guy was the better player"...


EDIT: Oh god, I knew some retard would post it.

So you don't understand that argument either?
there you go:

Shaquille O'Neal is a better overall player than Mike Bibby, but Mike Bibby is the better pointguard.

I hope I could help you...