how come Jordan never lost in the Finals?

[dh144498]

Well, LBJ had it easy this year too, weak era coupled with the fact that most of his competitionin the EC had injury problems (Bulls were a MASH, New York, Boston, Indiana missing it's best offensive player). Easiest path to the Finals and still it took 7 games to get past Indy.

Then in the Finals, old ass Spurs with a hobbled Parker should've beaten Miami if they could shoot FTs or grab a defensive rebound or if Allen hadn't bailed out LeBron.

Two can play this game, junior.

[KG215]

that is the most hilarious thing about this so called "GOAT" of basketball
And haters call Lebron a frontrunner, when this fakkit was a true definition of manufactured all-time great, riding on the back of Pippen and Phil to them rings

LeBron's lost multiple series with HCA and as the favorite. Wouldn't that be worse? Oh, and Jordan did win playoff series where he wasn't the favorite.

[TheMan]

LeBron's mlost multiple series with HCA and as the favorite. Wouldn't the be worse? Oh, and Jordan did win playoff series where he wasn't the favorite.

Yes, it is worse but TonyMontana, MadMax, Trollsmasher etc will choose to ignore that.

[TonyMontana]

Well, LBJ had it easy this year too, weak era coupled with the fact that most of his competitionin the EC had injury problems (Bulls were a MASH, New York, Boston, Indiana missing it's best offensive player). Easiest path to the Finals and still it took 7 games to get past Indy.

Then in the Finals, old ass Spurs with a hobbled Parker should've beaten Miami if they could shoot FTs or grab a defensive rebound or if Allen hadn't bailed out LeBron.

Two can play this game, junior.

Always trying to turn the argument around on LeBron instead of explain why Jordan could only win in the 90s when all the other great teams declined?



Sure we'll play your game.

LeBron has already won series where he was expected to lose.

See Bigsmokes image about the Thunder-Heat series. The Thunder had 3 superstars and were expected to run over the Heat.

The media was counting him out when the Heat were down 3-2 to the Celtics and LeBron responded with a 45 point 15 rebound game? Do I need to show you all of LeBrons stats in elimination games? I trust you've seen the data Pablo. They were counting them out vs IND last year when Bosh went down too. LBJ wasn't having that.

How about all of the kids on this site who already had their zippers down in Game 6 ready to celebrate a SA victory? Sorry bro, but LeBron had other things in mind.

And I'm just talking about Heat. He's done this shit with the shittty Cavs teams too(Pistons).

Jordans Bulls casts were WAY better than LeBrons Heat. The Heat have the biggest weakness any team could possibly have. Shitty interior play.

If you saw the Heat get a guy like Joakim Noah on their team then the Heat would indeed be comparable to a team like the Bulls who had no exploitable weaknesses on the court and the greatest coach in history at the helm.

As of now the Heat still have a glaring weakness that still leaves them vulnerable to other teams. This is a team that has gone and will go more adversity than Jordans teams ever did who simply beat teams because the roster is stacked and noone else in the league could compare.

[dh144498]

Always trying to turn the argument around on LeBron instead of explain why Jordan could only win in the 90s when all the other great teams declined?



Sure we'll play your game.

LeBron has already won series where he was expected to lose.

See Bigsmokes image about the Thunder-Heat series. The Thunder had 3 superstars and were expected to run over the Heat.

The media was counting him out when the Heat were down 3-2 to the Celtics and LeBron responded with a 45 point 15 rebound game? Do I need to show you all of LeBrons stats in elimination games? I trust you've seen the data Pablo. They were counting them out vs IND last year when Bosh went down too. LBJ wasn't having that.

How about all of the kids on this site who already had their zippers down in Game 6 ready to celebrate a SA victory? Sorry bro, but LeBron had other things in mind.

And I'm just talking about Heat. He's done this shit with the shittty Cavs teams too(Pistons).

Jordans Bulls casts were WAY better than LeBrons Heat. The Heat have the biggest weakness any team could possibly have. Shitty interior play.

If you saw the Heat get a guy like Joakim Noah on their team then the Heat would indeed be comparable to a team like the Bulls who had no exploitable weaknesses on the court and the greatest coach in history at the helm.

As of now the Heat still have a glaring weakness that still leaves them vulnerable to other teams. This is a team that has gone and will go more adversity than Jordans teams ever did who simply beat teams because the roster is stacked and noone else in the league could compare.

lebron has lost many series where he was expected to win.

MJ never lost when he was expected to win.

[TonyMontana]

lebron has lost many series where he was expected to win.

MJ never lost when he was expected to win.

Like when? The only series LeBron should ever get blame for under performing is the 2011 Finals and guys have certainly had worst series. Look at Kobe averaging 15 PPG and 35% in the 00 Finals, but he got carried by a Peak Shaq so noone cares.

The only reason people were picking CLE over teams like ORL/BOS was because they were in awe at LeBrons ability.

CLE vs BOS
Boston has 4 of the top 5 players in the series. LeBron, Pierce, KG, Allen, Rondo.

CLE vs ORL
Orlando with 3 of the top 4 players in the series. LeBron, Shard, Hedo Dwight. I trust you've seen LeBrons quote about him having to guard Shard and Hedo and whoever he didn't guard was going off.

Teams win championships, not players.

Show me series Jordan won where the oppenent had 4 of the top 5 players in the series. Jordan had an MVP caliber player on his team in a league where no other superstar had a teammate like that. Add the greatest rebounder EVER and the greatest coach EVER, and you really think this team was going to lose?

57 wins with Jordan
55 wins without Jordan

Nice impact

[SilkkTheShocker]

07 Detroit was always far and away the favorite to beat Cleveland. The same Detroit team that had the next best 5-6 players after LeBron.

[juju151111]

Like when? The only series LeBron should ever get blame for under performing is the 2011 Finals and guys have certainly had worst series. Look at Kobe averaging 15 PPG and 35% in the 00 Finals, but he got carried by a Peak Shaq so noone cares.

The only reason people were picking CLE over teams like ORL/BOS was because they were in awe at LeBrons ability.

CLE vs BOS
Boston has 4 of the top 5 players in the series. LeBron, Pierce, KG, Allen, Rondo.

CLE vs ORL
Orlando with 3 of the top 4 players in the series. LeBron, Shard, Hedo Dwight. I trust you've seen LeBrons quote about him having to guard Shard and Hedo and whoever he didn't guard was going off.

Teams win championships, not players.

Show me series Jordan won where the oppenent had 4 of the top 5 players in the series. Jordan had an MVP caliber player on his team in a league where no other superstar had a teammate like that. Add the greatest rebounder EVER and the greatest coach EVER, and you really think this team was going to lose?

57 wins with Jordan
55 wins without Jordan

Nice impact

Pippen wasn't any MVP caliber player in 91 and where was Pippen in 98. LJ choked in key moments in the series against the Celtics and Orlando. Stockton and Malone were better then injured Pippen. Shit pippen was getting taken out ogle finals games because of back injuries which Mj had to carry his old ads team to a chip.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Pippen wasn't any MVP caliber player in 91 and where was Pippen in 98. LJ choked in key moments in the series against the Celtics and Orlando. Stockton and Malone were better then injured Pippen. Shit pippen was getting taken out ogle finals games because of back injuries which Mj had to carry his old ads team to a chip.

LeBron is the only reason the Orlando series wasn't a sweep. Take a look at the averages LeBron's teammates put up in the 09 ECF. Go ahead, i'll wait.

[AceManIII]

Like when? The only series LeBron should ever get blame for under performing is the 2011 Finals

Alright, now name one series that we can blame Jordan

[dh144498]

LeBron is the only reason the Orlando series wasn't a sweep. Take a look at the averages LeBron's teammates put up in the 09 ECF. Go ahead, i'll wait.

they didn't put anything up because Lebron took all their shots.

[SilkkTheShocker]

they didn't put anything up because Lebron took all their shots.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...905200CLE.html

Mo Williams- 6-19
Delonte West 4-13
LeBron James 20-30
Varejao 6-8
Big Z - 5-11

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...905220CLE.html

Mo Williams 7-21
Delonte West 4-7
LeBron James 12-23
Varejao 2-5
Big Z 5-13

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...905240ORL.html

Mo Williams 5-16
Delonte West 5-11
LeBron James -11-28
Varejao- 1-2
Big Z 3-10

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...905260ORL.html

Mo Williams -5-15
Delonte West 7-15
LeBron James 13-29
Varejao 4-8
Big Z 5-9

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...905280CLE.html

Mo Williams 7-14
Delonte West - 6-13
LeBron James 11-24
Varejao 3-6
Big Z 6-8

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...905300ORL.html

Mo Williams 6-12
Delonte West - 9-19
LeBron James- 8-20
Varejao 7-12
Big Z 1-5


They got there shots. They couldn't hit anything. Nice try though. And this isn't even counting the bench that got outscored by one guy (Pietrus) for a whole series. But don't let facts get in the way of your agenda, Kobe stan.