Lebron's weak first step makes his postgame moves slower and less explosive

[3ball]

gilbert arenas

andgar923

^^^^ I'm not sure what post move Lebron is attempting there... Maybe this one??..





Lebron looks like a snail in comparison..

And his highlight was WITH spacing - the weakside was spaced, so he faced only 1 strongside help defender.. Whereas MJ's highlight was without spacing, so he faced all 4 help defenders on the strongside..

I swear, Lebron would be about 65% of the player if you took away the spacing.

[Trollsmasher]

^^^^ I'm not sure what post move Lebron is attempting there... Maybe this one??..





Lebron looks like a snail in comparison..

And his highlight was WITH spacing - the weakside was spaced, so he faced only 1 strongside help defender.. Whereas MJ's highlight was without spacing, so he faced all 4 help defenders on the strongside..

I swear, Lebron would be about 65% of the player if you took away the spacing.

that defense

dudes don't even move... LeBron would average 40 in this enviroment EASILY

[AirFederer]

^^^^ I'm not sure what post move Lebron is attempting there... Maybe this one??..





Lebron looks like a snail in comparison..

And his highlight was WITH spacing - the weakside was spaced, so he faced only 1 strongside help defender.. Whereas MJ's highlight was without spacing, so he faced all 4 help defenders on the strongside..

I swear, Lebron would be about 65% of the player if you took away the spacing.

Everything that man did on court was alpha as fvck, in lack of other words. Swag!

[OldSchoolBBall]

that defense

dudes don't even move... LeBron would average 40 in this enviroment EASILY

You're trolling (no shock). Jordan catches the ball and IMMEDIATELY makes a hard move, making the defense react to him and getting into the seam. Then he elevates and contorts to seal off the next defender in the air. The defense was fine - he just made it look bad. He'd do the exact same thing today - hell, he was doing it at times at age 40 in a better defensive league than today.

Two plays from his Wizards years where he similarly makes it look like the defense "isn't even moving":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3IQKeenIKw#t=4m06s

EDIT: There's another play vs. Ruben Patterson and the Blazers, but I can't find it now.

[Trollsmasher]

You're trolling (no shock). Jordan catches the ball and IMMEDIATELY makes a hard move, making the defense react to him and getting into the seam. Then he elevates and contorts to seal off the next defender in the air. The defense was fine - he just made it look bad. He'd do the exact same thing today - hell, he was doing it at times at age 40 in a better defensive league than today.

Two plays from his Wizards years where he similarly makes it look like the defense "isn't even moving":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3IQKeenIKw#t=4m06s

EDIT: There's another play vs. Ruben Patterson and the Blazers, but I can't find it now.

that's something that's not going to happen in today's league

in today's advanced schemes, defense would be there, predicting his move and he would be the one making a reaction to it

[guy]

that's something that's not going to happen in today's league

in today's advanced schemes, defense would be there, predicting his move and he would be the one making a reaction to it

Easier said then done

In both plays, Jordan is reacting to what the defense are giving him and then forcing them to counter react. He can do that better then Lebron due to his quicker first step, greater offensive arsenal, and the fact that he's less likely to just pound the ball aimlessly. That's what makes him more unpredictable for defenses to react to. Has nothing to do with the defenses themselves. Those are not plays Lebron is capable of making on a regular basis. You don't need to see him play other era defenses to come to that conclusion.

[OldSchoolBBall]

that's something that's not going to happen in today's league

in today's advanced schemes, defense would be there, predicting his move and he would be the one making a reaction to it

lol You're kidding yourself. That only happens to people like Lebron because he pounds the ball for so long looking for openings.

[3ball]

in today's advanced schemes, defense would be there, predicting his move and he would be the one making a reaction to it

By advanced schemes, do you mean today's weakside spacing that leaves the strongside with less defenders?

Or do you mean advanced schemes to that are necessary to COMPENSATE for the spacing and resulting lesser number of strongside defenders?

Pretty sure you mean the latter.
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[warriorfan]

that defense

dudes don't even move... LeBron would average 40 in this enviroment EASILY

LeBron ppg is going to raise 10+ points with less spacing and more physical defense?

[Kvnzhangyay]

LeBron ppg is going to raise 10+ points with less spacing and more physical defense?

He would definitely get fouled more

[Trollsmasher]

LeBron ppg is going to raise 10+ points with less spacing and more physical defense?

physical defense never had any effect on LeBron, he in fact relishes it

what gives him fits is an intelligent defense

However, defensive IQ in the pre '00s era was like that of Uganda when compared to the South Korea that it became from '00s onward

less spacing is a myth

[andgar923]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ziD...dimirNaskovski

Kenny talks about Zach's 'quickness'

[3ball]

physical defense never had any effect on LeBron, he in fact relishes it

The higher level of physicality in previous eras would wear him down much quicker.

We know he already has major stamina problems - it's an excuse he's used MANY times to explain losses.

Of course, we all remember Game 1 of 2014 Finals and Game 4 of 2015 Finals, where being "gassed" and cramping up HURT his team.

what gives him fits is an intelligent defense (and if his bread-and-butter drive-and-kick was taken away)

That's what you forget - drive-and-kick for 3-pointers is a MODERN INVENTION.

Guys didn't shoot 3's in 1985, so there was no one to kick to.

Of course, drive-and-kick for 2-pointers occurred sometimes - but there was no spacing, and the lower efficiency on drive-and-kick 2-pointers (compared to 3-pointers) is why they didn't occur much back then - posting and cutting off-ball was the more preferred, standard methods of scoring 2-pointers..

No drive-and-kick for 3-pointers would be a problem for Lebron, since that's his bread-and-butter, while posting and off-ball are his literally his weakest areas.
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[Indian guy]

I equate "post game" with playing with your back to the basket, so I don't understand what your first step has to do with posting up. LeBron's ordinary first step is much more detrimental to his game when he's out on the perimeter, facing up.

[3ball]