Lebron says Kyrie will be primary ball handler

[Cocaine80s]

It shows Jordan's superior off-ball ability, which is what the thread is about.. Lebron doesn't play anything like that.

And in all those clips of Jordan doing GOAT plays off-ball, you see how two-foot leaping is needed to finish those plays, another thing Lebron doesn't do.

Lebron is so baller he only needs one foot to do what Jordan does with two

[Legends66NBA7]

It shows Jordan's superior off-ball ability, which is what the thread is about

No, it really isn't anything about that. The OP:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11...l-kyrie-irving
Not surprising really, that is the kind of superstar Lebron is. Always sacrificing to make his teammates happy. It is why they follow him to the ends of the earth.

And in the article, there is nothing about Jordan anywhere.

[Nuff Said]

It shows Jordan's superior off-ball ability, which is what the thread is about.. Lebron doesn't play anything like that.

And in all those clips of Jordan doing GOAT plays off-ball, you see how two-foot leaping is needed to finish those plays, another thing Lebron doesn't do.

You honestly deserve a ban at this point.

[RedBlackAttack]

It shows Jordan's superior off-ball ability, which is what the thread is about.. Lebron doesn't play anything like that.

And in all those clips of Jordan doing GOAT plays off-ball, you see how two-foot leaping is needed to finish those plays, another thing Lebron doesn't do.

I'm trying to figure out what this thread had to do with Michael Jordan before you brought him into it. If you can, please show me with clarity how we got to this point. If not, please stop derailing threads.

Thanks.

[tpols]

The fact that Lebron cannot posterize anyone off two feet in the halfcourt without taking any dribbles means he isn't nearly as explosive a finisher in traffic, which will always prevent him from being in the same league as Jordan as an off-ball player.

Hes not as explosive vertically, but hes more explosive horizontally.. he can bully guys off him down low better than jordan could

[3ball]

No, it really isn't anything about that. The OP:

And in the article, there is nothing about Jordan anywhere.

Lebron is trying to play off-ball like Jordan but can't do the GOAT off-ball things seen below because he isn't as explosive off two legs (in addition to not having the repertoire of moves and footwork, or the GOAT turnaround/mid-range jumper).























Lebron is chasing Jordan... why do you think he stared at him in the Bobcats game... and now Lebron is trying to play more like Jordan by playing off-ball.... so the above GOAT off-ball standard IS relevant.
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[RedBlackAttack]

Lebron is trying to play off-ball like Jordan but can't do the GOAT off-ball things seen below because he isn't as explosive off two legs (in addition to not having the repertoire of moves and footwork, or the GOAT turnaround/mid-range jumper).























Lebron is chasing Jordan... why do you think he stared at him in the Bobcats game... and now Lebron is trying to play more like Jordan by playing off-ball.... so the above IS relevant.

Official warning. Stop trolling/derailing. The thread has nothing to do with Jordan. Move along. Thanks.

[Milbuck]

Yes, the only reason Lebron is trying to play off ball is because he's chasing Jordan, trying to be like Mike.

Not at all because of the way his team is constructed, playing to the strength of his teammates or anything, or adapting to getting older like every great before him did.

It's all about Jordan.

[3ball]

Yes, the only reason Lebron is trying to play off ball is because he's chasing Jordan, trying to be like Mike.

Not at all because of the way his team is constructed, playing to the strength of his teammates or anything, or adapting to getting older like every great before him did.

It's all about Jordan.

Not always... but in this thread - where the thread is about a guy that's now planning on playing off-ball who stared at the off-ball GOAT during the Bobcats game before getting his a** handed to him in historical fashion - it's relevant to bring up how Lebron's off-ball game compares to Jordan's... and in doing so, it obviously makes sense to point out that it doesn't...
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[RedBlackAttack]

Not always... but in this thread - where the thread is about a guy that's now planning on playing off-ball who stared at the off-ball GOAT during the Bobcats game before getting his a** handed to him in historical fashion - it's relevant to bring up how Lebron's off-ball game compares to Jordan's... and in doing so, it obviously makes sense to point out that it doesn't...
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There's absolutely no connection. Move along.

[3ball]

Yes, the only reason Lebron is trying to play off ball is because he's chasing Jordan, trying to be like Mike.

Not at all because of the way his team is constructed, playing to the strength of his teammates or anything, or adapting to getting older like every great before him did.

adapting to his teammates?... you have to admit, you bs'd there a bit..

adapting to his teammates is not something Lebron has historially done, so this would be a first.

historically, Lebron's teammates adjust to HIM, even if it means big men must turn into floor-spreaders.

also, playing off-ball is simply optimal anytime he plays with other guys that are capable of playmaking - he doesn't need any other reason to play off-ball... he should have learned to dominate off-ball in Miami, and he'd probably still be there.... which brings up another point, Lebron has never dominated off-ball before - that will be a first too, assuming he TRIES to dominate (that has also been a problem historically).
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[poido123]

adapting to his teammates?... you have to admit, you bs'd there a bit..

adapting to his teammates is not something Lebron has historially done, so this would be a first.

historically, Lebron's teammates adjust to HIM, even if it means big men must turn into floor-spreaders.

also, playing off-ball is simply optimal anytime he plays with other guys that are capable of playmaking - he doesn't need any other reason to play off-ball... he should have learned to dominate off-ball in Miami, and he'd probably still be there.... which brings up another point, Lebron has never dominated off-ball before - that will be a first too, assuming he TRIES to dominate (that has also been a problem historically).
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Dude stop. You just got an official warning, this thread isnt about jordan.

Tried re railing the thread with this.

The key to cavs success this year will hinge on how much lebron is willing to sacrifice in order to win.

Irving needs the ball to be most effective, so if lebron can play more off the ball, look out.

[game3524]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11...l-kyrie-irving
Not surprising really, that is the kind of superstar Lebron is. Always sacrificing to make his teammates happy. It is why they follow him to the ends of the earth.