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Re: Apparently Mo Williams was an elite shooter
Originally Posted by Hey Yo
Korver was an elite 3pt shooter. That's what he is known for. Just like Curry's known as an elite 3pt shooter, the best.
Mo could create his own shot, but was far from an elite shooter. He shot a career 43% from the field and had a 53% career TS%.
Nothing Mo did in the NBA is considered elite.
I wasn't speaking to Mo's quality in any way with that post, just pointing out you can be an elite shooter without being an elite scorer.
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Re: Apparently Mo Williams was an elite shooter
Originally Posted by Ainosterhaspie
Rashard Lewis had 2.8 per game.
Danny Granger had 2.7 per game.
Ray Allen had 2.5 per game.
Mo Williams had 2.3 per game.
So to answer your question, it wasn't Mo Williams.
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Re: Apparently Mo Williams was an elite shooter
Originally Posted by ILLsmak
Even if he was trash and spoonfed, he's definitely an elite shooter. Steve Kerr was an elite shooter and he didn't do what Mo did. (starting, getting almost 20).............. BUT Mo was always shitting the bed in the playoffs. If he could have continued that level of shooting in the playoffs Bron might have made the Finals in a couple of those years.
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Why is it okay for Pippen to average 15 ppg on 33-40% for a dozen different series, but Mo Williams is a horrible player for averaging 18 on 38% in the 09' ECF?
Ultimately, MJ won many times with less help than Mo's 09' ECF... pippen averaged 17.6 on 40.8% for the entire 96-98' playoffs, and he had horrific stats in the 89' cinderella run and the 96' Finals or 92' ECF (X-man destroying him)
And don't give me the defense argument because Cleveland was known for great defenses, sometimes better than the bulls depending on the year
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Re: Apparently Mo Williams was an elite shooter
Pippen had higher BPMs than Jordan in the playoffs in two out of the 3 playoff runs from 96-98.
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Re: Apparently Mo Williams was an elite shooter
Originally Posted by Hey Yo
Alright then...... explain to me what an elite shooter is, why Mo is considered an elite shooter and give me some other past and present names as examples of elite shooters that averaged 13ppg or less for their career.
An elite shooter is an elite shooter. Means they're really good at shooting the basketball. This usually pertains to 3-pt shooting
An elite scorer is someone good at scoring a lot of points or getting their own shots
An elite shooter CAN be an elite scorer, but they aren't the same
Steve Kerr is an elite shooter. He's not an elite scorer
Craig Hodges, Kyle Korver, Dell Curry, Joe Harris etc.
Elite shooters. Not elite scorers
How do you not know this shit?
I don't have to explain anything about Mo, btw. My contention was about you equating an elite shooter to being an elite scorer, when they aren't one in the same
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Re: Apparently Mo Williams was an elite shooter
Bran is top 3 GOAT #StriveForGreatness He had to carry. LeGOAT too strong!
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Re: Apparently Mo Williams was an elite shooter
Originally Posted by 3ball
Why is it okay for Pippen to average 15 ppg on 33-40% for a dozen different series, but Mo Williams is a horrible player for averaging 18 on 38% in the 09' ECF?
Ultimately, MJ won many times with less help than Mo's 09' ECF... pippen averaged 17.6 on 40.8% for the entire 96-98' playoffs, and he had horrific stats in the 89' cinderella run and the 96' Finals or 92' ECF (X-man destroying him)
And don't give me the defense argument because Cleveland was known for great defenses, sometimes better than the bulls depending on the year
LeGOAT your argument is invalid. Stop hating on my boi Bran
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Re: Apparently Mo Williams was an elite shooter
Originally Posted by RRR3
Pippen had higher BPMs than Jordan in the playoffs in two out of the 3 playoff runs from 96-98.
Boom.
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Re: Apparently Mo Williams was an elite shooter
Originally Posted by RealSkipBayless
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Re: Apparently Mo Williams was an elite shooter
Originally Posted by LostCause
An elite shooter is an elite shooter. Means they're really good at shooting the basketball. This usually pertains to 3-pt shooting
An elite scorer is someone good at scoring a lot of points or getting their own shots
An elite shooter CAN be an elite scorer, but they aren't the same
Steve Kerr is an elite shooter. He's not an elite scorer
Craig Hodges, Kyle Korver, Dell Curry, Joe Harris etc.
Elite shooters. Not elite scorers
How do you not know this shit?
I don't have to explain anything about Mo, btw. My contention was about you equating an elite shooter to being an elite scorer, when they aren't one in the same
Destroyed on the first point and then moved goalposts
Thought he was slick... Instead he confirmed there are people out there who think Shaq was a "marksman".
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Re: Apparently Mo Williams was an elite shooter
Originally Posted by scuzzy
Steve Kerr was an elite shooter
Toni Kukoc was an elite shooter
this
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Re: Apparently Mo Williams was an elite shooter
Originally Posted by 3ball
Why is it okay for Pippen to average 15 ppg on 33-40% for a dozen different series, but Mo Williams is a horrible player for averaging 18 on 38% in the 09' ECF?
Ultimately, MJ won many times with less help than Mo's 09' ECF... pippen averaged 17.6 on 40.8% for the entire 96-98' playoffs, and he had horrific stats in the 89' cinderella run and the 96' Finals or 92' ECF (X-man destroying him)
And don't give me the defense argument because Cleveland was known for great defenses, sometimes better than the bulls depending on the year
Yeah, don't give me the defense argument when you're comparing Scottie Pippen to Mo Williams
Next, don't give me the rebounding argument when comparing Dennis Rodman to Anderson Varejao
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Re: Apparently Mo Williams was an elite shooter
1.MJ played on a shortened 3pt line. No doubt about it.
2.MJ never faced a worthy adversary. Magic Johnson? Nah, that Lakers team was falling into shambles. Clyde Drexler? Nah, he wasn't on the line of Bran Bran's opponents. Charles Barkley? Karl Malone? John Stockton? Come on.
TRUTH: HE DUCKED HAKEEM. HE NEVER FACED A WORTHY ADVERSARY.
3. He took 18 months of three-peats. HE HAD IT EASY.
4. HE PLAYED WITH THE MOST ACCURATE 3pter in history.
5.1990's DEFENSES WASNT THAT GOOD.
FACTS: MJ PLAYED IN A WEAK ERA.
CONCLUSION: LEBRON THE GOATS AND Michael is #3 on my list.
#1 BRON
#2 KAJ
#3 MJ
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