It's a fact that Lebron's PF's are all better than 97' and 98' Rodman

[3ball]

All OP proved is the 90's were the most watered down era since the 3-ball was formed.

We know a [COLOR="DarkRed"]bunch of old guys past their peaks beat a bunch of other old guys past their peaks.
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In b4 "98 Lakers 4 all-stars doe".

Hell the next year in 99 an 8th seed made the finals.

OP posts so much here because he's banned everywhere else.

Would you prefer a bunch of old guys past their peak beating a bunch of prime guys in their peak like the 2014 Finals?

Duncan/Ginobili/Parker were 36/37/32, while Lebron/Bosh/Wade were 29/28/32.. So the Heat had 2 of 3 guys in their prime and the 3rd had just been lights out in the ECF (was expected to be fine and basically was, but was used as an excuse for the surprise blowout loss)

[StrongLurk]

Would you prefer a bunch of old guys past their peak beating a bunch of prime guys in their peak like the 2014 Finals?

Duncan/Ginobili/Parker were 36/37/32, while Lebron/Bosh/Wade were 29/28/32.. So the Heat had 2 of 3 guys in their prime and the 3rd had just been lights out in the ECF (was expected to be fine and basically was, but was used as an excuse for the surprise blowout loss)

Wade and Bosh were washed in those finals and the Spurs won because of 3 point shooting, something 90's teams weren't capable of.

Bosh retired the next year and only a troll like yourself would act like Wade was even legit all-star level that year.

[SouBeachTalents]

Would you prefer a bunch of old guys past their peak beating a bunch of prime guys in their peak like the 2014 Finals?

Duncan/Ginobili/Parker were 36/37/32, while Lebron/Bosh/Wade were 29/28/32.. So the Heat had 2 of 3 guys in their prime and the 3rd had just been lights out in the ECF (was expected to be fine and basically was, but was used as an excuse for the surprise blowout loss)

Besides your psychotic obsession, this is why you get so much shit on here. Blatantly making shit up, and of course always having having a double standard/being hypocritical. If Wade was "lighting it up" in the ECF, you need to admit Pippen was doing the same throughout the first 3peat.

And if Wade played "basically fine" in the Finals, you're never allowed to bitch about Pippen again

[3ball]

Wade and Bosh were washed in those finals and the Spurs won because of 3 point shooting, something 90's teams weren't capable of.

Except Miami had better 3-point shooters..

The Spurs didn't magically get hot from deep like a coincidence - there aren't basketball gods rolling the dice to see who gets hot on that night...

The Spurs got hot because their brand of basketball was usurping the Heat's and the players could feel it.. They were applying more pressure than they were facing, and gradually wining the attrition battle..

That's how the game works.. Every game.. Every time.. It's an attrition battle, and Lebron-ball doesn't apply effective pressure at the championship level against teams that are moving the ball well and applying MORE pressure..

Don't act like this was the first or last time a team has run away with the series.. It's f.ucking standard procedure - his teams get blown away for 3 straight games to finish all of his Finals losses.. they figure out his cp3-level brand and blow its doors off

And anytime a team's brand is getting blown away, teammates will play poorly, as Lebron also did when the games were close (being contested).. Wade didn't suddenly get hurt right after the ECF, where he was superb, and then suck in the Finals by some magic.. The Heat were just getting taught a basketball lesson, so they lost despite otherwise having sufficient talent to win..
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[Rico2016]

Plus the zero first round exits to MJ's three first round exits. The facts are hard to refute

[3ball]

Except Miami had better 3-point shooters..

The Spurs didn't magically get hot from deep like a coincidence - there aren't basketball gods rolling the dice to see who gets hot on that night...

The Spurs got hot because their brand of basketball was usurping the Heat's and the players could feel it.. They were applying more pressure than they were facing, and gradually wining the attrition battle..

That's how the game works.. Every game.. Every time.. It's an attrition battle, and Lebron-ball doesn't apply effective pressure at the championship level against teams that are moving the ball well and applying MORE pressure..

Don't act like this was the first or last time a team has run away with the series.. It's f.ucking standard procedure - his teams get blown away for 3 straight games to finish all of his Finals losses.. they figure out his cp3-level brand and blow its doors off

And anytime a team's brand is getting blown away, teammates will play poorly, as Lebron also did when the games were close (being contested).. Wade didn't suddenly get hurt right after the ECF, where he was superb, and then suck in the Finals by some magic.. The Heat were just getting taught a basketball lesson, so they lost despite otherwise having sufficient talent to win..

^^^ Okay looks like that's a knock-out blow folks; I don't feel any more incoming or response..

[StrongLurk]

Except Miami had better 3-point shooters..

The Spurs didn't magically get hot from deep like a coincidence - there aren't basketball gods rolling the dice to see who gets hot on that night...

The Spurs got hot because their brand of basketball was usurping the Heat's and the players could feel it.. They were applying more pressure than they were facing, and gradually wining the attrition battle..

That's how the game works.. Every game.. Every time.. It's an attrition battle, and Lebron-ball doesn't apply effective pressure at the championship level against teams that are moving the ball well and applying MORE pressure..

Don't act like this was the first or last time a team has run away with the series.. It's f.ucking standard procedure - his teams get blown away for 3 straight games to finish all of his Finals losses.. they figure out his cp3-level brand and blow its doors off

And anytime a team's brand is getting blown away, teammates will play poorly, as Lebron also did when the games were close (being contested).. Wade didn't suddenly get hurt right after the ECF, where he was superb, and then suck in the Finals by some magic.. The Heat were just getting taught a basketball lesson, so they lost despite otherwise having sufficient talent to win..
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3 point shooting is highly volatile, Spurs got hot like no other team had ever been in the finals in NBA history.

You stopped watching basketball 10 years ago, not sure why you think you can comment on anything.

I guess that's why you only make MJ threads. Sad.

Edit: just saw you reply to your own post, jesus you're a loser

[3ball]

3 point shooting is highly volatile, Spurs got hot like no other team had ever been in the finals in NBA history.

You stopped watching basketball 10 years ago, not sure why you think you can comment on anything.

I guess that's why you only make MJ threads. Sad.

Edit: just saw you reply to your own post, jesus you're a loser

[ILLsmak]

The irony with 3ball is he (allegedly) hates that LeBron gets compared to Jordan, yet he compares the two of them, usually multiple times, literally every single day

How do you dudes involve yourself in the same discussions haha. It's like a rotation thing. My brain might be melting but I have a good memory for words once I've seen them, and this dude posts the same stuff. He might not always make the same thread but he takes parts from other posts and other threads and uses them. This 97 98 Rodman is big biz for him.

I ain't mad but why do people continue these discussions?

-Smak

[tanibanana]

Nobody would pick any LBJ PF's over Rodman. Nobody.

[3ball]

Nobody would pick any LBJ PF's over Rodman. Nobody.

Love and Bosh are better than any version of Rodman, let alone 36-year old Rodman that averaged 4/8 on 37% for the entire 97' Playoffs.

All-defense Varajao in 2010 > 97' Rodman, among many other Lebron bigs as mentioned previously.

[SouBeachTalents]

Love and Bosh are better than any version of Rodman, let alone 36-year old Rodman that averaged 4/8 on 37% for the entire 97' Playoffs.

All-defense Varajao > 97' Rodman, among many other Lebron bigs as mentioned previously.

You just think too simple - you think "Rodman.. errr... HOF... errrr.. da Bulls.. err"

As your 3rd best player? Hell no. Rodman is much more valuable in terms of defense, rebounding, effort, hustle plays etc

[3ball]

As your 3rd best player? Hell no. Rodman is much more valuable in terms of defense, rebounding, effort, hustle plays etc

I guess Rodman would be better than Bosh or Love in Russell's era, when good team offense wasn't possible due to the lack of spacing, which allowed a 1-way defender like Russell to be the best player..

But since the 3-point line was instituted in 1980, all 40 MVP's have been dominant offensive players, so we know that a 1-way defender like Russell wouldn't be an MVP caliber player in the modern era.. Similarly, Rodman's 1-way defensive play simply couldn't be the best player on a modern era team like Bosh and Love did (both led their team to the playoffs, or Love nearly did.. obviously, rodman never could as the team's best player).

Of course, since Russell isn't an MVP-level player in the modern era, we know that MJ's 6 rings as "the man" are the goat accomplishment of history (2nd place has 3), while his PPG and efficiency rating records only further enhance his goat resume.
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[tanibanana]

As your 3rd best player? Hell no. Rodman is much more valuable in terms of defense, rebounding, effort, hustle plays etc

I believe he knows it. Just simply can't and would never accept the truth.

[FKAri]

Lebron had more help than MJ, and this is just another example.

many bigs who played anywhere near Rodman's gaudy minutes produced better than 4/8 on 37% Rodman, including Love, Bosh, Drew Gooden, Varejao, Tristan, Donyell, Zydrunas, Shaq, Mosgov and others..

These guys were like 4th and 5th best players on the team producing more rebounds and/or defense than Rodman.. and better offense too of course.. But Lebron always had much more rebounders, rim protection, and athletic guards than MJ...

Of course Lebron's going to have more help than MJ when 90s players are trash. What kind of argument is this you moron? You just keep digging your own grave.