Miami Heat vs. Cleveland Cavs discussion

[dubeta]

I see what you're trying to do...


But Bosh/Wade TODAY are NOT Bosh/Wade from 4 years ago. Wade was a top 5 player in 2011, and Bosh was probably a top 15 player.


Now the question is whether Wade is washed up (Jameer Nelson is better than a washed up Wade today), and if Bosh can reclaim his alpha status from Toronto.

So when exactly did Wade and Bosh decline? pinpoint a date


Seems to me that they CONVENIENTLY declined from superstars to scrubs the second LeBron left


Face it, unless Bosh and Wade play like stars this year, this proves LeBron has had little help for at least the last 2-3 years

[GrapeApe]

Ok but Bosh/Wade today ARE the same guys from about 5 months ago when the NBA playoffs started, right?

Back then, people were still calling the Heat the most stacked team of all time even though Wade was broken down, and the team really wasn't all that good. If they really were that stacked, losing one superstar and replacing him with two all stars should keep them as the favorites.

Nobody except trolls were calling the Heat "the most stacked team of all time" last season. They were up and down all year and most legit fans and analysts recognized it.

I do expect a resurgant season from Wade and Bosh, but regardless of what the trolls will say that doesn't mean the Heat were stacked last year.

[Eric Cartman]

Even without Lebron the team has great depth, especially with Blatche.

Last year's Heat I'd call stacked relative to the Eastern Conference.

Too bad Wade played like garbage in the finals. He looked good at long stretches during the Indy series.

[Beastmode88]

oh my god who ****ing cares

its ****ing september, lets just wait till atleast mid season for you to get butthurt over this shit

retard bran stans like dubeta/dragic putting up damage control months before the seasons starts.

[dubeta]

retard bran stans like dubeta/dragic putting up damage control months before the seasons starts.

More like retards like you calling Bosh and Wade superstars the last 4 years, and the second bran leaves, they're 'scrubs'

Make up your mind

[Beastmode88]

More like retards like you calling Bosh and Wade superstars the last 4 years, and the second bran leaves, they're 'scrubs'

Make up your mind

I never called them scrubs, they're a shell of themselves that's cause of time and injury. Did Lebron not turn Christina Bosh into a spot up shooter? You obviously don't remember when Wade showed up last season to save Miami in game 4 finals. Just goes to show Lebron is nothing more than Robin.

[SouBeachTalents]

I never called them scrubs, they're a shell of themselves that's cause of time and injury. Did Lebron not turn Christina Bosh into a spot up shooter? You obviously don't remember when Wade showed up last season to save Miami in game 4 finals. Just goes to show Lebron is nothing more than Robin.

Lol, you literally pick the only game in that entire playoff run Wade outplayed LeBron

[GrapeApe]

More like retards like you calling Bosh and Wade superstars the last 4 years, and the second bran leaves, they're 'scrubs'

Make up your mind

Strawman much? Who is doing this? Nobody is calling them scrubs. In fact, most people are predicting them to have good seasons.

[KobesFinger]

He also said that the Lakers are more stacked than the Lakers. His argument went along the lines of

Nash (2 MVPs) > Kyrie
Kobe (5 rings) > Waiters
Young < LeBron
Boozer (NCAA Champion) > Love
Hill > Varejao

IMO Cavs aren't the most stacked team in the league. Spurs and Clippers (crazy depth) and OKC (2 top 5 players and Ibaka) are more stacked but they all play in the West so only one can make the Finals. Cavs are definitely the best in the East IMO and only the Pacers before PG's injury and the Bulls could hope to stop them. If the Bulls got Melo I'd say they were the best in the East.

[dubeta]

He also said that the Lakers are more stacked than the Lakers. His argument went along the lines of

Nash (2 MVPs) > Kyrie
Kobe (5 rings) > Waiters
Young < LeBron
Boozer (NCAA Champion) > Love
Hill > Varejao

IMO Cavs aren't the most stacked team in the league. Spurs and Clippers (crazy depth) and OKC (2 top 5 players and Ibaka) are more stacked but they all play in the West so only one can make the Finals. Cavs are definitely the best in the East IMO and only the Pacers before PG's injury and the Bulls could hope to stop them. If the Bulls got Melo I'd say they were the best in the East.

LOL who said that?

[KobesFinger]

LOL who said that?

You did and I'm aware I made a typo

[AnaheimLakers24]

bran fans have small *****

[Kidbasketball20]

So when exactly did Wade and Bosh decline? pinpoint a date


Seems to me that they CONVENIENTLY declined from superstars to scrubs the second LeBron left


Face it, unless Bosh and Wade play like stars this year, this proves LeBron has had little help for at least the last 2-3 years

Wade has not been a "superstar" in the last 3 years.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Wade has not been a "superstar" in the last 3 years.

Wade was easily a superstar in 2012

[JT123]

Wade was easily a superstar in 2012

His 43% shooting in the 2012 Finals says otherwise. As does his 5 point playoff game against the Pacers.