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    Default Re: The Mount Rushmore of 21st century college basketball players is all white

    Quote Originally Posted by ralph_i_el
    I have never seen another college player have as big an impact outside of scoring. He was an absolute animal that season, even though he rarely took a jumper. He was a one man elite defense who finished everything around the basket.



    no, he wasn't. He wasn't a great shooter, and obviously you need to have a decent shot to be an elite NBA scorer, so people knew he'd need to make SOME improvements to become an all-star. However, his defense was otherworldly and so were his hands/finishing ability. He was a safe NBA pick. His floor was "he never learns to shoot, and anchors the paint for 15 years, finishes everything on the PnR" and guys like that are $10m+ men in this league.

    Well, duh. Obviously he was an elite defender and blocked a flat out unbelievable number of shots every game but he clearly just wasn't that talented of a scorer. He was still mostly potential at that point.

    Of course he was very very very good but didn't take over games such as the likes of Morrison and Redick.

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    Default Re: The Mount Rushmore of 21st century college basketball players is all white

    Quote Originally Posted by SugarHill
    national player of the year
    14/10/5blks (35 PER)
    final four MVP
    DPotY

    what makes any of them better?
    Only that they all stayed for four years. If somebody comes into the league and wins MVP as a rookie and then gets hurt and never plays again he's not going to be considered a top 10 player of all time.

    If Davis, (or Durant or Melo or Wall or any other number of guys) had stayed four years they would obviously be on there. Those guys were dominating the NBA when they would have still been in school, we can only imagine how dominant they would have been against college athletes.

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    Default Re: The Mount Rushmore of 21st century college basketball players is all white

    Quote Originally Posted by Lensanity
    Well, duh. Obviously he was an elite defender and blocked a flat out unbelievable number of shots every game but he clearly just wasn't that talented of a scorer. He was still mostly potential at that point.

    Of course he was very very very good but didn't take over games such as the likes of Morrison and Redick.
    dude he scored 14ppg on 62% shooting. He played with a decent amount of offensive talent around him, so it's not like he was being fed the ball and asked to make plays. He was an elite finisher at the rim. If he had played on a weaker squad, we would have seen him making more plays from the elbow, and probably would have had 20ppg on 52-55%

    Defense is half the game and he's maybe the greatest defensive college basketball player of all time. His squad dominated their way to a championship. You can say he was mostly potential when he was clearly the best player in the country, and led his team to an overwhelming championship win.

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    Default Re: The Mount Rushmore of 21st century college basketball players is all white

    Quote Originally Posted by HurricaneKid
    He led the NCAA in ORTG (139) AND DRTG (80.3). Which means when he was on the floor over the course of the season his team outscored opponents by 58.7 points/100 possessions.
    but when he was on the floor, he shared it with 4 other mcdonalds all americans, so its not really a level playing field.

    davis didnt have to do much creating offensively because his squad was so stacked, but that doesnt mean we can assume that he still would have been great offensively had his team needed him to. he was solid offensively, but skill level wise he never jumped out while at uk.

    people forget the expectations of him around draft time, people were talking about a rich man's marcus camby. he wasnt the once in a generation type talent people are retrospectively claiming him as. he was a pretty average talent for a number one pick.
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    Default Re: The Mount Rushmore of 21st century college basketball players is all white

    Quote Originally Posted by chips93
    but when he was on the floor, he shared it with 4 other mcdonalds all americans, so its not really a level playing field.

    davis didnt have to do much creating offensively because his squad was so stacked, but that doesnt mean we can assume that he still would have been great offensively had his team needed him to. he was solid offensively, but skill level wise he never jumped out while at uk.

    people forget the expectations of him around draft time, people were talking about a rich man's marcus camby. he wasnt the once in a generation type talent people are retrospectively claiming him as. he was a pretty average talent for a number one pick.
    That's not what I remember. I remember "rich man's marcus camby" being his FLOOR.

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    Default Re: The Mount Rushmore of 21st century college basketball players is all white

    That's because the rocks are more white than black.

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    No it isn't

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