2008-2010 Lakers are worse if we replace Kobe with Lebron-ball right?

[eliteballer]

LeBron definitely isn't winning any rings with Bynum's 6 point and 5 rebound playoff averages.

[Bandito]

Lebeta needs shooters to bail his a$$ out. With him hogging the ball down to 4 secs each possession, wont have enough time to run the triangle efficiently. Besides Triangle offense requires players to have a good jumpshot, what was lebetas jumpshot % again this final? Lol...

Another note, Triangle offense works best when they double team ( Kobe is the double team magnet), but with lebron... Single coverage all day

So thissssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[3ball]

Post that interview in 09 where Lebron said Kobe was better than him? I think it was 60 minutes.

In short, close thread.

True - and there's a reason that Chalmers, Cole, and Battier routinely sucked and underperformed, while Derek Fisher and Rick Fox almost never did.. Fisher and Fox simply didn't have to relinquish any playmaking duties alongside Kobe - they don't have to abandon any comfort zones they had, so they played better, and their reputation benefited from playing with Kobe..

For Lebron's teammates, it's the opposite.. Chalmers, Cole, Battier, Bosh, and Love have all had their individual stats, performance and reputation hurt by playing with Lebron.

People aren't giving credit to how Lebron's style reduces his teammates stats.. This prevents the team from maximizing their production and reaching their ceiling, which leads to underachievement.
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[riseagainst]

lebron would average 38-8-8 in the finals while 5 peating.

[Genaro]

That team doesn't fit Lebron's strengths, good playoff team because of the talent of Gasol and Lebron but I don't see them winning.

[HOoopCityJones]

lebron would average 38-8-8 in the finals while losing.

Yup

[branslowski]

Omg, Gasol would be tookin out of the paint to fit LeBron's drive, thus turning Gasol into a deep 2/ 3pt shooter, thus taking down Gasol's production just like Bosh's and just like Love's....And Odom and Bynum?? They are not even as good as TT and Mozgov was in the Finals..

Odom Finals avg= 8ppg 8reb 3ast vs TT Finals avg 11-12ppg 12reb glass cleaner and defender.

Bynum Finals avg= 6ppg 4reb vs Mozgov Finals avg 15ppg 9reb

Anyone thinking Bron could have won a title with the Lakers is truely blind. His lack of a good jumper would force Gasol to have to spread the floor out for him to drive, thus Gasol getting all jumpers and 3's.

[LAZERUSS]

Yet another "anti-Lebron" topic...

MJ > Lebron.

Lebron...all-time great.

[HOoopCityJones]

You're not getting the same production out of our bigs with Lebron at the center of the offense. It's proven they regress.

Especially someone like Gasol and Odom, two infamous pouters and check out artists when shit isn't going their way. Bosh at least latched onto his defense and spot up shooting to fill up the overall scoring gap that was taken from his game.

[Hey Yo]

True - and there's a reason that Chalmers, Cole, and Battier routinely sucked and underperformed, while Derek Fisher and Rick Fox almost never did.. Fisher and Fox simply didn't have to relinquish any playmaking duties alongside Kobe - they don't have to abandon any comfort zones they had, so they played better, and their reputation benefited from playing with Kobe..

For Lebron's teammates, it's the opposite.. Chalmers, Cole, Battier, Bosh, and Love have all had their individual stats, performance and reputation hurt by playing with Lebron.

People aren't giving credit to how Lebron's style reduces his teammates stats.. This prevents the team from maximizing their production and reaching their ceiling, which leads to underachievement.
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If you take Horace Grant off Chicago and replace with Bosh or Love.....does Love still get 18.5FGA and 8FTA per game like he did the last season with T'Wolves? Does Bosh still get his 16.5FGA and 8.4FTA like he did with Toronto?

[leBron Bieber]

Lebron Ball Had Tristan Freakin Thompson N Mozscrub Looking Like Mosters Against The Best Front Court In The League ( Bulls) Stfu 5 Peat Easy!

[Hey Yo]

Omg, Gasol would be tookin out of the paint to fit LeBron's drive, thus turning Gasol into a deep 2/ 3pt shooter, thus taking down Gasol's production just like Bosh's and just like Love's....And Odom and Bynum?? They are not even as good as TT and Mozgov was in the Finals..

Odom Finals avg= 8ppg 8reb 3ast vs TT Finals avg 11-12ppg 12reb glass cleaner and defender.

Bynum Finals avg= 6ppg 4reb vs Mozgov Finals avg 15ppg 9reb

Anyone thinking Bron could have won a title with the Lakers is truely blind. His lack of a good jumper would force Gasol to have to spread the floor out for him to drive, thus Gasol getting all jumpers and 3's.

nice vocabulary