Tracy McGrady (pre-injuries) v.s. Dwyane Wade

[L.Kizzle]

He was an elite big. Sure as hell not as good as prime Shaq, but as good as 05-06 Shaq at the least.

Trust me, he was not. Shaq changes the game just by being out there, the intimidation factor, Yao, not at all.

[ImmortalNemesis]

What's ISH's definition of "elite"? Compared to Shaq, Yao sure as hell wasn't elite. If by 'elite' we mean top 3 center then yes he was elite. Yao did change the game by just being out there. He changed so many shots around the rim area that didn't show up in the stats sheet.

@OP:

I would take prime Wade over McGrady. They're both equally talented but McGrady kinda loses his pair in the playoffs. Again, this isn't about talent. Wade has 'it', McGrady doesn't. Dude was getting checked by Fisher in the playoffs.

[Papaya Petee]

Uhhh, Wade quite easily.

30\8\5\2\1 All-NBA defense is better then 32\7\6\ with average defense poor shooting percetange.

Also, Wade 8 years in his career has more great seasons then T-Mac in his whatever 13-14 year career

Wade can will you in the playoffs, actually win a series.

[ShaqAttack3234]

Uhhh, Wade quite easily.

30\8\5\2\1 All-NBA defense is better then 32\7\6\ with average defense poor shooting percetange.

Also, Wade 8 years in his career has more great seasons then T-Mac in his whatever 13-14 year career

Wade can will you in the playoffs, actually win a series.

Well, T-Mac's shooting percentage in his 2003 was definitely not poor. He shot 46% from the field, 39% on 3s while making 2.3 of them per game and 79% and had a TS% of 56%. Even better when you consider it took place in the toughest defensive era(1998-2004).

And as far as winning a playoff series, well, Wade needed help to do it, just like T-Mac would've needed it. Prime T-Mac in Orlando shouldn't have been expcted to have won any of those series because he was always facing more talented teams and his playoff numbers with Orlando were excellent. Wade didn't win in '09 or '10 when he had to play with casts like that either.

[ThaSwagg3r]

What's ISH's definition of "elite"? Compared to Shaq, Yao sure as hell wasn't elite. If by 'elite' we mean top 3 center then yes he was elite. Yao did change the game by just being out there. He changed so many shots around the rim area that didn't show up in the stats sheet.

@OP:

I would take prime Wade over McGrady. They're both equally talented but McGrady kinda loses his pair in the playoffs. Again, this isn't about talent. Wade has 'it', McGrady doesn't. Dude was getting checked by Fisher in the playoffs.

Actually McGrady was much more talented than D. Wade was. McGrady was on Kobe and VC's level of talent.

This comparison is just another example of how hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard. Wade is the hard worker while McGrady is the talented slacker

[knightfall88]

Tmac at his peak would be the best player in the game today

[PullupJay]

Tmac at his peak would be the best player in the game today

yo true story

[IamSofaKing]

Tmac

[Rockets(T-mac)]

Well, T-Mac's shooting percentage in his 2003 was definitely not poor. He shot 46% from the field, 39% on 3s while making 2.3 of them per game and 79% and had a TS% of 56%. Even better when you consider it took place in the toughest defensive era(1998-2004).

And as far as winning a playoff series, well, Wade needed help to do it, just like T-Mac would've needed it. Prime T-Mac in Orlando shouldn't have been expcted to have won any of those series because he was always facing more talented teams and his playoff numbers with Orlando were excellent. Wade didn't win in '09 or '10 when he had to play with casts like that either.

No what are you talking about? T-mac was a choker, it's plain and simple. He never won a playoff series, that's all that matters, circumstance has nothing to do with it.

[Jacks3]

03 T-Mac is better than any version of Wade. Not only is he considerably more skilled, but he put up his numbers in a MUCH tougher defensive era.

[Jacks3]

In case you haven't noticed, for the last game and-a-half, Wade has looked like the best player in the world.

Wow. One game and a half. Amazing.

[Stuckey]

03 T-Mac is better than any version of Wade. Not only is he considerably more skilled, but he put up his numbers in a MUCH tougher defensive era.

+1

next question

[Bigsmoke]

i noticed that Tmacs prime was one season long

Give me Wade and his 6 MVP seasons than Tmac with his o so overrated 2003 campain.

He's a cry baby too. lil ho

[moe94]

The gap in their defense makes this a silly question. The gap in the offense is nonexistent.

[Heat007]

Wade pre-injury >>> T-Mac pre-injury

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p52I1Oy-7M

^^ Wade pre-injury was .90 of Jordan.. and Wade would undoubtedly be compared to MJ a lot more than he is now if he didn't suffer those 2 surgeries and get hurt.

In fact, with those injuries, Wade's career stats for ppg, assists, rebounds, blocks and steals for per minute are ALL right on par with LeBron since they entered the league in 2003.