2003 Timothy Theodore Duncan vs. 2012 LeBron Raymone James

[Lebron23]

Tim Duncan was the last player to win the finals MVP and season MVP in the same NBA Season before Lebron won both of these Awards in 2012.

Tim Duncan

Regular Season

23.3 ppg on 51.3 FG$, 12.3 apg, 3.9 apg, 0.7 spg, 2.7 bpg.

Playoffs

24.7 ppg on 52.9 FG%, 15.4 rpg, 5.3 apg, 0.6 spg 3.3 bpg.

San Antonio beat the Suns, Lakers, Mavericks and the Nets in the Playoffs.


LeBron James


Regular Season

27.1 ppg on 53.1 FG%, 7.9 rpg, 6.2 apg, 2.0 spg, 0.8 bpg


Playoffs

30.3 ppg on 50 FG%, 9.7 rpg, 5.6 apg, 1.9 spg, 0.7 bpg

Miami Beat the Knicks, The Pacers, The Celtics, and The thunder in the playoffs.

[T_L_P]

Duncan wins this one, only marginally in the Regular Season but considerably in the Playoffs.

He had a pretty mediocre cast -- the Spurs were still a partly rebuilding team; 3% of the GMs predicted the Spurs to win the title in 2003, whereas 75% of them predicted the Heat to win in 2012 -- and he took them to glory.

He anchored both the offense and the defense, and, dare I say it, he received more attention on and off the ball than LeBron did, because LeBron had Wade/Bosh on his team.

[ripthekik]

Duncan never left his team even in a small market
Duncan never had 2 all stars in his championship teams (it was either Robinson, Parker or Ginobilli, only 1 of them)
He always put the team on his shoulders year in year out, never choke in an entire series or quit on his team.

Duncan all day everyday.

[MichaelCorleone]

Duncan never left his team even in a small market
Duncan never had 2 all stars in his championship teams (it was either Robinson, Parker or Ginobilli, only 1 of them)
He always put the team on his shoulders year in year out, never choke in an entire series or quit on his team.

Duncan all day everyday.

Yup Duncan over Kobe in the all time list.

Does that suit your agenda?

[riseagainst]

Yup Duncan over Kobe in the all time list.

Does that suit your agenda?

sure. So Duncan > Kobe> Lebron. Does that suit your agenda?

[MichaelCorleone]

sure. So Duncan > Kobe> Lebron. Does that suit your agenda?

When did I say Lebron is below Kobe?

When all is said and done, the FACT will be:

Lebron > Duncan >> Kobe

[oarabbus]

When did I say Lebron is below Kobe?

When all is said and done, the FACT will be:

Lebron > Duncan >> Kobe

Oh, so you can see into the future. Good for you.

[DonDadda59]

Timmy to Raymone- "You ain't shit without your homeboys"

True Story.

[MichaelCorleone]

Oh, so you can see into the future. Good for you.

Actually the future is here.

Lebron = Duncan > Kobe

After Lebron's 3rd/4th ring and FMVP, he'll move into the top 3 all time group.

[rmt]

Look at each player's 2nd, 3rd and 4th options:

2003 Spurs Playoffs

Parker 14.7 pts / 2.8 rebs / 3.5 assts 40.3%FG
SJax 12.8 pts / 4.1 rebs / 2.7 assts 41.4%
Manu 9.4 pts / 3.8 rebs / 2.9 assts 38.6%

2012 Heat Playoffs

Wade 22.8 pts / 5.2 rebs / 4.3 assts / 1.7 stl / 1.3 blks 46.2%
Bosh 14 pts / 7.8 rebs 49.3%
Chalmers 11.3 pts / 3.9 assts 44.2%

[Inferno]

Look at each player's 2nd, 3rd and 4th options:

2003 Spurs Playoffs

Parker 14.7 pts / 2.8 rebs / 3.5 assts 40.3%FG
SJax 12.8 pts / 4.1 rebs / 2.7 assts 41.4%
Manu 9.4 pts / 3.8 rebs / 2.9 assts 38.6%

2012 Heat Playoffs

Wade 22.8 pts / 5.2 rebs / 4.3 assts / 1.7 stl / 1.3 blks 46.2%
Bosh 14 pts / 7.8 rebs 49.3%
Chalmers 11.3 pts / 3.9 assts 44.2%

Timmy

[KyleKong]

Duncan never left his team even in a small market
Duncan never had 2 all stars in his championship teams (it was either Robinson, Parker or Ginobilli, only 1 of them)
He always put the team on his shoulders year in year out, never choke in an entire series or quit on his team.

Duncan all day everyday.

1. Duncan was drafted to a Championship caliber team, why would he leave?

2. That's why Robinsoin, Parker, and Ginbolli were All-Stars during the Spurs title runs, right?

3. Never choked?



"Duncan misses from point blank range...he's made that shot a million times."

[rmt]

1. Duncan was drafted to a Championship caliber team, why would he leave?

2. That's why Robinsoin, Parker, and Ginbolli were All-Stars during the Spurs title runs, right?

3. Never choked?

"Duncan misses from point blank range...he's made that shot a million times."

DRob was not an all-star in either 99 or 03. There was no other all-star (except Duncan) in either 99 or 03. Only Manu was an all-star in 05 and only Parker was an all-star in 07. Duncan won all 4 titles without any all-nba team mates.

Maybe you'd be tired too after playing 43:10 (2nd highest after 21 year old Leonard) at age 37. How many 37 years olds would be performing (24 pts / 12 rebs) at that level in the NBA Finals?

[T_L_P]

DRob was not an all-star in either 99 or 03. There was no other all-star (except Duncan) in either 99 or 03. Only Manu was an all-star in 05 and only Parker was an all-star in 07. Duncan won all 4 titles without any all-nba team mates.

Maybe you'd be tired too after playing 43:10 (2nd highest after 21 year old Leonard) at age 37. How many 37 years olds would be performing (24 pts / 12 rebs) at that level in the NBA Finals?

He clearly doesn't understand the concept of choking

Choking is having 10 points on 3-12 shooting (Parker). Choking is having 8 points on 3-11 shooting (LeBron). Choking is not missing one shot

[T_L_P]

1. Duncan was drafted to a Championship caliber team, why would he leave?

He was drafted to a championship caliber team, yes, but he could have easily of left when they weren't (2000-2003).