When did free speech become a bad thing?

[Nick Young]

It's not a bad thing when the populace is educated and mannered.

It is harmful for the well being of the individual to let loose the tongue without certain restraints

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Sounds like something Mao or Stalin might have said.

Hey, if I can get others to link this guy with communists who practice genocide, surely his comments will be drained of worth! Ugh.

There are certain things one should have learned growing up, irregardless of location.

"Open mouth catches no flies"
"Silence is golden"
"Better to have people think you are a fool, then open your mouth and confirm it"
etc.

Derivatives of wisdom from ALL Cultures, spanning from Confucian China to Industrial Revolution America.

Whether you like it or not, there are consequences for saying stupid, offensive, worthless, lying things of conjecture Long Duck Dong. Not from the corrupt government either. Talking about an infinitely greater Force. Like having unsuspecting innocents come across similar opinions in preliminary stages of life, then foolishly reaffirming them and further misguiding people.

And if it's tyranny you fear, understand that the pen/paper and organized action are far, far, far superior to any worthless unfruitful protests.

Because Chris forgot to reserve his tongue (or keyboard) and neglected his intellect, you carry on his nonsensical theory about "liberals" built on crap premises. I'm sorry your eyes had to witness so much stupidity on these boards, dude, you deserve much higher quality as does everyone else.


"Liberals fight against mainstream/common sense thinking?" Really? These are synonymous, now? So, now the remarks of Thomas Paine, Einstein's "Human Stupidity is infinite" and Mark Twains "Common sense is not so common" take a backseat to your take on things? Okay...

Then you are psychoanalyzing a vague group of a great deal people and claiming the motives of thousands of these folks to be "change" and "a chance to demonstrate for something..anything" (ostentation?). How on earth could you possibly know the psychology of people who are different than you?

[UK2K]

What lies about Trump did the Washington Post print?

Never said they did...

And if they think they are printing stories on the up and up, then they should have no opposition to the proposal, would they?

[Facepalm]

Never said they did...

And if they think they are printing stories on the up and up, then they should have no opposition to the proposal, would they?

There are already laws against libel. Do you really want to restrict freedom of the press?

[UK2K]

There are already laws against libel. Do you really want to restrict freedom of the press?

There are lots of laws.

Making it easier to sue a media outlet for libel isn't restricting free speech... its making it easier to sue a media outlet for libel.

If they aren't guilty of it, then they don't need to worry about it.

[DukeDelonte13]

Yeah, but these people want to implement all types of "hate speech" laws.

what the f*ck does that even matter. Who cares that some people want to make a law. Does that mean the law would even happen? Does that mean if the law were to get passed it would survive judicial scrutiny?

[DukeDelonte13]

Progressives don't value free speech.

Of course they'll give you the whole spiel about how freedom of speech only protects you from persecution by the government. While that is technically true, the libs don't really respect the idea of freedom of speech. Not only that, but they have no respect for Freedom of association either. If you don't want to be part of the groups or people that they think you should.... Well, they turn to the same tactics they claim to hate. Such as shaming.

It's technically true because it is absolutely true.

You want small government, and you want businesses to be ran by the business owners. If the business want to censor something, they should have the right to do so. If you don't agree with it, don't support them.

[Long Duck Dong]

Hey, if I can get others to link this guy with communists who practice genocide, surely his comments will be drained of worth! Ugh.

There are certain things one should have learned growing up, irregardless of location.

"Open mouth catches no flies"
"Silence is golden"
"Better to have people think you are a fool, then open your mouth and confirm it"
etc.

Derivatives of wisdom from ALL Cultures, spanning from Confucian China to Industrial Revolution America.

Whether you like it or not, there are consequences for saying stupid, offensive, worthless, lying things of conjecture Long Duck Dong. Not from the corrupt government either. Talking about an infinitely greater Force. Like having unsuspecting innocents come across similar opinions in preliminary stages of life, then foolishly reaffirming them and further misguiding people.

And if it's tyranny you fear, understand that the pen/paper and organized action are far, far, far superior to any worthless unfruitful protests.

Because Chris forgot to reserve his tongue (or keyboard) and neglected his intellect, you carry on his nonsensical theory about "liberals" built on crap premises. I'm sorry your eyes had to witness so much stupidity on these boards, dude, you deserve much higher quality as does everyone else.


"Liberals fight against mainstream/common sense thinking?" Really? These are synonymous, now? So, now the remarks of Thomas Paine, Einstein's "Human Stupidity is infinite" and Mark Twains "Common sense is not so common" take a backseat to your take on things? Okay...

Then you are psychoanalyzing a vague group of a great deal people and claiming the motives of thousands of these folks to be "change" and "a chance to demonstrate for something..anything" (ostentation?). How on earth could you possibly know the psychology of people who are different than you?

You know what, maybe you're right. Maybe the FBI should pay you a visit and haul your azz off for all the terrorist sympathizing bulls[COLOR="Black"]hit[/COLOR] you post on here.

[Facepalm]

There are lots of laws.

Making it easier to sue a media outlet for libel isn't restricting free speech... its making it easier to sue a media outlet for libel.

If they aren't guilty of it, then they don't need to worry about it.

So you want less government intrusion unless it's Trump who wants more government intrusion. Got it.

[UK2K]

So you want less government intrusion unless it's Trump who wants more government intrusion. Got it.

I don't believe suing someone in court for libel is what most people would consider 'government intrusion' since it's a case between two non-government entities...

But whatever.

[poido123]

It's not a bad thing when the populace is educated and mannered.

It is harmful for the well being of the individual to let loose the tongue without certain restraints

So we can end up like other Islamic countries full of harsh rules, homophobia, sexism and violence that are followed by extreme punishments? Surely that's not your idea of an ideal world.