Barkley: Kawhi Leonard is a Top 10-15 Player

[YouGotServed]

Leonard is not even that much a better defender than Parsons. He just plays in a system were the coach actually requires you to play defense so I blame McHale. Parsons is the superior offensive player and their defense is pretty much a wash.

[kells333]

No particular order

Durant
Lebron
Blake
CP3
Parker
Curry
Melo
Westbrook
Lillard
Aldridge
Wall
Noah
DMC
Love
Davis
Duncan
Dragic
Dirk
Dwight
Al Jefferson
Wade
PG
MGasol
Bosh
Irving
Ibaka
Derozen
Gay
Harden
Milsap
Deandre jordan
D- rose
Kobe
Drummond
Afflalo
Ellis
Josh smith

All people i think are better than him right now. Theres probably a few missed also

[Milbuck]

No particular order

Durant
Lebron
Blake
CP3
Parker
Curry
Melo
Westbrook
Lillard
Aldridge
Wall
Noah
DMC
Love
Davis
Duncan
Dragic
Dirk
Dwight
Al Jefferson
Wade
PG
MGasol
Bosh
[COLOR="red"]Irving
Ibaka
Derozen[/COLOR]
Gay
Harden
[COLOR="red"]Milsap
Deandre jordan[/COLOR]
D- rose
Kobe
[COLOR="Red"]Drummond
Afflalo
Ellis[/COLOR]
Josh smith

All people i think are better than him right now. Theres probably a few missed also

What the **** to the bolded. Especially to Rose and Kobe, who both played like utter shit when they did play this season.

The red are debatable right now. Some of them (Drummond, Kyrie, maybe Derozan) could be substantially better in the future. But you could make a case for Kawhi over them right now as an overall basketball player, considering their situations/roles.

[DMAVS41]

What the **** to the bolded. Especially to Rose and Kobe, who both played like utter shit when they did play this season.

The red are debatable right now. Some of them (Drummond, Kyrie, maybe Derozan) could be substantially better in the future. But you could make a case for Kawhi over them right now as an overall basketball player, considering their situations/roles.

Harden is definitely better than Leonard. It is absurd to argue that...

Seems to me he's a sure fire top 40 player.

Could be argued perhaps a bit higher, but it's not definitive.

[Yankstar]

What the **** to the bolded. Especially to Rose and Kobe, who both played like utter shit when they did play this season.

The red are debatable right now. Some of them (Drummond, Kyrie, maybe Derozan) could be substantially better in the future. But you could make a case for Kawhi over them right now as an overall basketball player, considering their situations/roles.

Harden? Really are you trolling

[aj1987]

Harden? Really are you trolling

F[COLOR="black"]u[/COLOR]ck Harden! Flopping, no defense playing, bearded fat fa[COLOR="black"]g[/COLOR]got f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]ck.

[COLOR="White"]Inb4 YGS - "You madd?".[/COLOR]

[KyrieTheFuture]

Kawhi Leonard plays 2nd team defense at the worst, I'd put him 1st team. He's an incredibly efficient scorer, great rebounder, and doesn't turn it over.


And he plays 29 MPG. Twenty ****ing nine minutes. He'd put up stats if he played more minutes. He's definitely top 15.

People forget he was going to win FMVP if the Spurs won last year.

[Dro]

Did I miss Harden?

What about Zach Randolph?

Mike Conley?

Is he better than Iggy?

Deron Williams?

Irving?

Millsap?

Monroe/Drummond?

Ibaka?

Deandre Jordan?

Hibbert?

Ellis?

Afflalo?

Stephenson?
I'm just throwing more names out there...

He's better than Hibbert, probably Afflalo and Lance too...although I'm iffy on Lance...He's better than Kyrie for sure...

[BuffaloBill]

I read that the Spurs have a 81% winning percentage with Kawhi in the lineup (since he joined the team, not just this season). I wouldn't say he's a top 15 player but he does have a huge impact and he makes the spurs that much better.

[steve]

I honestly don't know what game people are watching if they don't consider Leonard one of the select few best perimeter defenders in the league. In my opinion he's the top perimeter defender in the league. His balance, anticipation, the ability to use his length, and his overall understanding of help and positional defense is really unmatched in the league. People give a lot of credit to Duncan (and occasionally Splitter, I guess) to the Spurs' resurgent defense but it's no coincidence that it took off when Leonard started getting more minutes and hits another level when he's on the floor.

And people really seem to undervalue his offense and the fact that he takes nothing off the table on that end and succeeds regularly when asked to do more. Compare this to some of the other small forwards under Lebron and Durant, and they may be consistently do more than Leonard but they also try to do more than they're capable of, usually to the hinderance of their team. This just doesn't happen with Leonard. He's been the best player on the best team in the league this season.

[TexasBloodMoney]

Leonard is not even that much a better defender than Parsons. He just plays in a system were the coach actually requires you to play defense so I blame McHale. Parsons is the superior offensive player and their defense is pretty much a wash.

Whatever helps you sleep at night

[Nikola_]

Dat 98 DRTG doe

53-11 with him, 8-7 without

[imdaman99]

I believe in Kawhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Top 15 soon, not yet though.

[mr.big35]

Harden? Really are you trolling

he is right you know.

[thefatmiral]

sometimes he plays like it. but without the consistency he isnt.