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Re: All Time Lakers would beat All Time NBA. Shaq was being too generous
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
Celtics were a flair up
They have like 4 legit titles from the modern era
Lakers have 10
How do you like second place?
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Re: All Time Lakers would beat All Time NBA. Shaq was being too generous
Originally Posted by rmt
This team is too "modern" for traditional big-men teams. Any combo of Shaq/KAJ/Wilt is gonna kill them. I prefer Hakeem for defense. Lebron can guard Magic. Who is Lakers' SF? Can Stockton be hidden on him?
Well I'm assuming the game is played in a modern setting. Funny thing is if this were a real contest you had to put money on, Laker fans would be fools to put Kobe on the team. Youd have four guys trying to play as a team and Kobe trying to chuck to prove hes the alpha. He can get away with that on rosters where his team has a clear talent advantage like on his nba 'chip teams, but against another all-time great team you cant do that garbage. If you want to win you have to play as a high IQ team. If you have Magic, Kareem, and Shaq youre much better sticking Logo at 2 guard who will play smart team ball and space the floor.
Anyway, like I said I personally dont think the difference between who guards Kareem comoensates for Dirk being able to stretch out to the three point line. Hakeem may be better in a vaccuum but Dirk would go better with Duncan IMO. Also Stockton plays bigger than his size defensively. With him, MJ and Bran on the wings, perimeter defense is absolutely air tight. Kobe and Magic perimeter D? Barely better than an average nba team perimeter.
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Re: All Time Lakers would beat All Time NBA. Shaq was being too generous
Originally Posted by TheMilkyBarKid
How do you like second place?
if russells celtic titles count as full for team comparisons ...then why dont they count as full for player comparisons
everyone ranks russells 11 slightly behind jordan...so they really count as 5 or 5.5 tops
5.5 is half of 11
so the celtics 13 non modern nba titles really count as 6.5
6.5 + 4 = 10.5
lakers have 10 modern day titles and 6 that get cut in half
10 + 3 = 13
13 > 10.5
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Re: All Time Lakers would beat All Time NBA. Shaq was being too generous
Originally Posted by Akrazotile
Well I'm assuming the game is played in a modern setting. Funny thing is if this were a real contest you had to put money on, Laker fans would be fools to put Kobe on the team. Youd have four guys trying to play as a team and Kobe trying to chuck to prove hes the alpha. He can get away with that on rosters where his team has a clear talent advantage like on his nba 'chip teams, but against another all-time great team you cant do that garbage. If you want to win you have to play as a high IQ team. If you have Magic, Kareem, and Shaq youre much better sticking Logo at 2 guard who will play smart team ball and space the floor.
Anyway, like I said I personally dont think the difference between who guards Kareem comoensates for Dirk being able to stretch out to the three point line. Hakeem may be better in a vaccuum but Dirk would go better with Duncan IMO. Also Stockton plays bigger than his size defensively. With him, MJ and Bran on the wings, perimeter defense is absolutely air tight. Kobe and Magic perimeter D? Barely better than an average nba team perimeter.
I don't think that would be the case.. see Kobe in 08 Olympics. He may do that shit at the end of a close game, but in a surrounded by all stars situation he knows how to share. In a lose 3 straight fmvps and get ridiculed as a sidekick situation sure, envy might spark, but the two situations are not equivalent.
Dirk and Duncan would get the shit kicked out of them by KAJ/Shaq on the boards.. its just a massive size advantage. I actually think there would be a higher chance of a rift between the two LA centers though as both are used to catching the ball in very similar spots in similar roles as post scorers/passers and both are the jealous type.. so dirk/Duncan might have a significant chemistry advantage.
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Re: All Time Lakers would beat All Time NBA. Shaq was being too generous
Originally Posted by tpols
Who guards Magic?
Jordan on Magic and Stockton on Kobe.
Kobe will think he has a mismatch and will chuck all game.
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Re: All Time Lakers would beat All Time NBA. Shaq was being too generous
Originally Posted by bdreason
Jordan on Magic and Stockton on Kobe.
Kobe will think he has a mismatch and will chuck all game.
I mean would he not just work him in the post.. ?
Is this 04 Kobe and did Stockton just grow a 7 foot wingspan?
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Re: All Time Lakers would beat All Time NBA. Shaq was being too generous
Originally Posted by tpols
I mean would he not just work him in the post.. ?
Is this 04 Kobe and did Stockton just grow a 7 foot wingspan?
Q: And when Lebron comes over to double, who is spacing the floor for the kickout. Magic, Kareem, Shaq, or Wilt?
A: Doesnt matter cause Kobe's shooting anyway
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Re: All Time Lakers would beat All Time NBA. Shaq was being too generous
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
if russells celtic titles count as full for team comparisons ...then why dont they count as full for player comparisons
everyone ranks russells 11 slightly behind jordan...so they really count as 5 or 5.5 tops
5.5 is half of 11
so the celtics 13 non modern nba titles really count as 6.5
6.5 + 4 = 10.5
lakers have 10 modern day titles and 6 that get cut in half
10 + 3 = 13
13 > 10.5
Why do you assume people rank Russell and Jordan based on rings? Russell has 11. Jordan has 6. Everyone recognizes this.
Nobody has ever tried to say that Russell's 11 rings are worth 5.5. Retarded.
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Re: All Time Lakers would beat All Time NBA. Shaq was being too generous
Originally Posted by Akrazotile
Q: And when Lebron comes over to double, who is spacing the floor for the kickout. Magic, Kareem, Shaq, or Wilt?
A: Doesnt matter cause Kobe's shooting anyway
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Re: All Time Lakers would beat All Time NBA. Shaq was being too generous
Stockton mad underrated on this board as usual. People saying where are you going to hide Stockton? Better question: who on that all time Lakers squad is going to stop Stockton?
1988 Lakers/Jazz playoff series, eventually won by the Lakers 4-3. Stockton averaged 19.3 pts and 16.4 assists per game, along with 4 steals. Who was guarding him? A 28 year old Magic Johnson.
16.4 assists with his second best target, after Malone, being Thurl Bailey. Imagine what he'd do with MJ, Lebron, and Duncan as targets in addition to Malone.
Prime Stockton was a MONSTER.
Without even going too far back:
Stockton/Kidd/Nash
MJ/Drexler/Wade
LeBron/Bird/Pippen
Malone/Barkley/Dirk
Duncan/Hakeem/Robinson
Beats anything the Lakers can put together
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Re: All Time Lakers would beat All Time NBA. Shaq was being too generous
Fucc outta here, Stockton ain't stopping Kobe.
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Re: All Time Lakers would beat All Time NBA. Shaq was being too generous
Originally Posted by ShawkFactory
Why do you assume people rank Russell and Jordan based on rings? Russell has 11. Jordan has 6. Everyone recognizes this.
Nobody has ever tried to say that Russell's 11 rings are worth 5.5. Retarded.
you're an idiot
if people gave russells 11 rings the same weight as 11 rings had they been won in the 80's,90's,00's
then he'd be far and away the GOAT and it wouldnt even be close
people discount the rings from his era
thats the most widely accepted fact that any real ball fan should know by now. if you deny it then you must either be a celtic fan or believe russell IS far and away GOAT
if you have mike first and think russells 11 are full value.... then you must thing russell wasnt that great. he must have been a borderline guy compared to mike
but...
the guy was a 5 time MVP
the guy was the best defensive player in nba history
the guy was arguably the best rebounder in nba history
the guy was arguably the best teammate in nba history
the guy was arguably the best leader in nba history
during the finals he averaged Russell - 11 titles (15ppg/25rpg/5bpg*/5apg/5spg* ) *allegedly
he coached AND played during 2 of his nba titles.
he was a great player... if a great player has a legit 11 rings as leader .. the guy is automatically the GOAT
unless ofcourse you discount the era, league at the time
which most do
cause its logical
you f*cking idiot
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Re: All Time Lakers would beat All Time NBA. Shaq was being too generous
It's pretty easy to nullify Magic at PG ... simply put LeBron (or even Pippen) there.
PG - LeBron
SG - Jordan
SF - Bird
PF - Duncan
C - Hakeem
2nd Unit
C - Russell
PF - Karl Malone
SF - Pippen
SG - DWade
PG - Isiah or Stockton
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Re: All Time Lakers would beat All Time NBA. Shaq was being too generous
Originally Posted by Soundwave
It's pretty easy to nullify Magic at PG ... simply put LeBron (or even Pippen) there.
PG - LeBron
SG - Jordan
SF - Bird
PF - Duncan
C - Hakeem
2nd Unit
C - Russell
PF - Karl Malone
SF - Pippen
SG - DWade
PG - Isiah or Stockton
I'd replace Malone with Dirk, but otherwise good roster. They'd beat LA IMO.
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Dirk Madness
Re: All Time Lakers would beat All Time NBA. Shaq was being too generous
I pick the sixers
Wilt
Malone
Dr j
Iverson
Cheeks
Bench
Barkley
Mutombo
Hal greer
Bobby jones
matt freaking geiger
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