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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki MVP 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
    Having the stats, but your teams record is so-so (off the top, i believe the bulls were 4th or 5th in the eastern conference alone).

    Kobe had a legit case for MVP. But so did a few others.
    3rd act.

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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki MVP 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
    What was he 4th in voting that year?

    It's crazy...

    Dallas was was 2-7 (.222) without Dirk, 1-3 (.250) with a getting-into-shape/limited minutes Dirk, and 54-15 (.783) with a healthy Dirk, which was the best record in the NBA..!!

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    I wouldn't even say Kobe is a way better player... I think their impact year-by-year is really close.


    I have Dirk comfortably ahead of Kobe in the all-time impact/eye test GOAT rankings.

    It is what it is. Kobe stans just need to learn how to deal.

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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki MVP 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
    3rd act.
    Ninja edit, fool ...

    But yeah, I would have no qualms with anyone having Dirk as MVP. Second best record out West (the best conference) with a decent supporting cast, better stats than Nash, and you guys said it best, he backed it up in the playoffs with an epic game 7 @ San Antonio and a finals appearance to boot.

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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki MVP 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
    Ninja edit, fool ...

    But yeah, I would have no qualms with anyone having Dirk as MVP. Second best record out West (the best conference) with a decent supporting cast, better stats than Nash, and you guys said it best, he backed it up in the playoffs with an epic game 7 @ San Antonio and a finals appearance to boot.
    That ****ed up playoff seeding format, Mavs with 60 wins and the #2 record v.s. Spurs with 63 wins and the #1 record... in the 2nd round...

    I mean, that was the WCF... in terms of records and team strength, but if we ACTUALLY HAD that as the WCF, and the series plays out the same way, it just would have made it all a bit more legendary.

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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki MVP 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
    Dude was most definitely robbed...

    1. Better team record
    2. Less talent around him
    3. Better statistically than Nash
    4. Proved it more by carrying them deeper in the post-season

    Top 15 all-time

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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki MVP 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
    Dude was most definitely robbed...

    1. Better team record
    2. Less talent around him
    3. Better statistically than Nash
    4. Proved it more by carrying them deeper in the post-season

    Top 15 all-time
    not even hitler would have dirk in the top 15

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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki MVP 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by STATUTORY
    not even hitler would have dirk in the top 15
    blonde, 7foot tall, alpha-warrior-genetics....Hitler would have had Dirk nr. 1 dude

    seriously, i think you can rank him 15-20 all time. saying that, everyone outside the locked top 10 are difficult to rank. So Dirk has def. a case to be up in the top 15-18...but so do other players as well....
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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki MVP 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by pastis
    blonde, 7foot tall, alpha-warrior-genetics....Hitler would have had Dirk nr. 1 dude



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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki MVP 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
    That ****ed up playoff seeding format, Mavs with 60 wins and the #2 record v.s. Spurs with 63 wins and the #1 record... in the 2nd round...

    I mean, that was the WCF... in terms of records and team strength, but if we ACTUALLY HAD that as the WCF, and the series plays out the same way, it just would have made it all a bit more legendary.
    The series vs Phoenix is an afterthought in history (no Amare), so I think of Dirk's G7 as a WCF performance anyway. Hah

    What an amazing game though. Undoubtedly his revenge from the 2003 debacle (when healthy that was the best Mavs team of all-time imo).

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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki MVP 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
    The series vs Phoenix is an afterthought in history (no Amare), so I think of Dirk's G7 as a WCF performance anyway. Hah

    What an amazing game though. Undoubtedly his revenge from the 2003 debacle (when healthy that was the best Mavs team of all-time imo).
    the 2003 one? Yeah, probably the only one that could also be deemed 'stacked' in Dirk's prime... and in THAT year, in the WCF, Dirk suffers his only mid-playoffs injury of his career, ending the season....

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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki MVP 2006

    AW has the haters shook

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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki MVP 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by StephHamann
    AW has the haters shook
    always

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    Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki MVP 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
    Dude was most definitely robbed...

    1. Better team record
    2. Less talent around him
    3. Better statistically than Nash
    Nash won 54 Games without Amare that year. Comparing their Role Players they seemed about even statistically.

    4. Proved it more by carrying them deeper in the post-season

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    The Post Season doesn't decide the MVP If so Wade would probably have 2 MVPs.

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