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    Default Re: John Havlicek 8-0

    Quote Originally Posted by STATUTORY
    I guess you are real impressed by And1 tapes then compilation of flashy passes against subpar competition don't mean shit

    I look at his fundamentals, strength, and quickness and it's clear he wouldn't even last an AAU summer camp much less the league

    and he looks like steve nash only in the most superficial and shallow sense, both white.

    but nash didn't dribble like this

    I wouldn't conflate *********ing to old ass nba clips with evaluating basketball talent champ
    Havlicek played from 1962 until 1978, still putting up 16/4/4/1 at 38 years old, two years prior to Bird and Magic making their pro-debut... Same Bird and Magic who were still beasts with Jordan in the league, same Jordan who's considered GOAT by most and was still schooling youngtas at 40 and all banged up, in the 2000's...
    ^Few "examples" out of many...

    How about some 70's basketball gifs, when Hondo was at his best?





















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    Default Re: John Havlicek 8-0

    Quote Originally Posted by CavaliersFTW
    What do and 1 tapes have to do with footage of NBA players leading fast breaks during NBA basketball games?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-xa6546ixc

    Cousy was a ****ing baller
    we won't convince each other, I personally don't value accolades from the pre merger era as much,

    I'm sure Hondo would be a fine player today. I'm just explaining why he doesn't get mentioned as much, probably because a lot of people also discount the stats from that era

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    Default Re: John Havlicek 8-0

    Quote Originally Posted by CavaliersFTW
    57% of the league was black in the 60's, the number jumps to nearly 70% in the 70's. League went from 8 teams to 17, plus the ABA's handful of teams. ABA was also about 70% black.

    This is all "pre-merger"

    Your statements are false.
    That's the early 70's....right before the merger.

    Celtics won their 8 straight title in the 60's....with only 57% being small white dudes isn't impressive at all.

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    Default Re: John Havlicek 8-0

    Pre Merger bigs:




    Modern bigs:




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    Default Re: John Havlicek 8-0

    Quote Originally Posted by DMV2
    That's the early 70's....right before the merger.

    Celtics won their 8 straight title in the 60's....with only 57% being small white dudes isn't impressive at all.
    You got the number backwards.

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    Default Re: John Havlicek 8-0

    Havlicek, Russell, Chamberlain, Mikan are all All-Time Top 10 in the Pioneer/Developing Era (pre-1976 or before Bird-Magic).

    But they don't belong in the Modern Era(1976-present, or Bird-Magic) Top 10 list though.

    There should be two All-Time lists to be honest.

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    Default Re: John Havlicek 8-0

    Quote Originally Posted by CavaliersFTW
    Pre Merger bigs:




    Modern bigs:



    Yah i do not know why people hate on old bigs because their postions compare best to modern times. with 6,7 centers

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    Default Re: John Havlicek 8-0

    Quote Originally Posted by DMV2
    Havlicek, Russell, Chamberlain, Makin are all All-Time Top 10 in the Pioneer/Developing Era (pre-1976 or before Bird-Magic).

    But they don't belong in the Modern Era(1976-present, or Bird-Magic) Top 10 list though.

    There should be two All-Time lists to be honest.
    I agree it def isn't fair to compare players like this.




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    Default Re: John Havlicek 8-0

    https://youtu.be/GSpY-zRYK1Y
    cavsftw this u playing basketball
    i can see why u think the 60's was good

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    Default Re: John Havlicek 8-0

    Quote Originally Posted by Jameerthefear
    https://youtu.be/GSpY-zRYK1Y
    cavsftw this u playing basketball
    i can see why u think the 60's was good
    No shit it's me I'm the one who shared the video

    This is also me:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljr2dbascVM

    I didn't start playing until I was 22, I know my limitations. I think it makes me appreciate great players even more actually, because I know what I can't do.

    Also quit being a b*tch and post in the 100 shots challenge thread already:
    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=352546

    Shit talker who is afraid to reveal himself, no surprise there
    Last edited by CavaliersFTW; 06-17-2015 at 01:32 PM.

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    Default Re: John Havlicek 8-0

    Why you even compare big's?

    You know damn, it's been a little man's league since Jordan took as the best player.

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    Default Re: John Havlicek 8-0

    Quote Originally Posted by DMV2
    Why you even compare big's?

    You know damn, it's been a little man's league since Jordan took as the best player.
    Olajuwon, Shaq and Tim Duncan say hi

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    Default Re: John Havlicek 8-0

    Weak era.
    Old era.
    15 total NBA teams.

    When Doris Burke has better handles in high heels than the best PG of that era you know something is very wrong.

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    Default Re: John Havlicek 8-0

    Quote Originally Posted by jzek
    Weak era.
    Old era.
    15 total NBA teams.

    When Doris Burke has better handles in high heels than the best PG of that era you know something is very wrong.
    http://vineyard.trendolizer.com/2014...oint-gawd.html

    Her in real-time is slower than Cousy in slow-motion and she almost loses it

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-xa6546ixc

    No comparison, Cousy runnin the break like Magic in actual games

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    Default Re: John Havlicek 8-0

    Quote Originally Posted by CavaliersFTW
    Olajuwon, Shaq and Tim Duncan say hi
    Jordan, Kobe, LeBron, Nash, Wade, Iverson, It's been a little man's league for a good part of the last 15 years. And make that 25 cuz Jordan destroyed the 90's Big's!!!! Which was the time the big's were any good. It's been only Shaq and Duncan since MJ's '98 retirement.

    Hell, even big's don't even play like traditional big's anymore. Just look at Dirk.

    Little Man > Big Man last 25 years.

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