Who was LeBron defensive anchor?

[SpaceJam2]

Guys?

[SpaceJam2]

Food for thought: Kobe is a NEGATIVE in playoff DBPM (-0.3) and has a worse DRtg than Jordan and LeBron

Defensive Playoff Statistics (Kobe/MJ fans may want to look away)

DefRtg
LBJ: 102
MJ: 104
Kobe: 106

DBPM
LBJ: 3.2
MJ: 2.1
Kobe: -0.3

DWS
LBJ: 15.9
MJ: 12.4
Kobe: 7.3

LBJ is ranked 1st in all
Kobe is ranked last in all

LBJ > MJ > Kobe

[3ball]

Food for thought: Kobe is a NEGATIVE in playoff DBPM (-0.3) and has a worse DRtg than Jordan and LeBron

Defensive Playoff Statistics (Kobe/MJ fans may want to look away)

DefRtg
LBJ: 102
MJ: 104
Kobe: 106

DBPM
LBJ: 3.2
MJ: 2.1
Kobe: -0.3

DWS
LBJ: 15.9
MJ: 12.4
Kobe: 7.3

LBJ is ranked 1st in all
Kobe is ranked last in all

LBJ > MJ > Kobe

Regular Season DefRtg:

Bird: 101
Lebron: 103


Regular Season DBPM:

Bird: 2.2
Lebron: 1.9


Playoffs DefRtg:

Bird: 102
Lebron: 102


Playoffs DBPM:

Bird: 3.4
Lebron: 3.2


And DWS is based on games played, so Lebron is ahead in that category

So again, DefRtg and DBPM favor defensive rebounders, hence Bird having higher numbers than Lebron, and Lebron having higher numbers than Kobe

So those stats are garbage because they favor frontcourt players - and the creators of the stat concede as much

[SpaceJam2]

Regular Season DefRtg:

Bird: 101
Lebron: 103


Regular Season DBPM:

Bird: 2.2
Lebron: 1.9


Playoffs DefRtg:

Bird: 102
Lebron: 102


Playoffs DBPM:

Bird: 3.4
Lebron: 3.2


And DWS is based on games played, so Lebron is ahead in that category

So again, DefRtg and DBPM favor defensive rebounders, hence Bird having higher numbers than Lebron, and Lebron having higher numbers than Kobe

So those stats are garbage because they favor frontcourt players - and the creators of the stat concede as much

So

Bird
LeBron
Kawhi
Draymond
Jordan
Kobe

on defense. Nice

[warriorfan]

It’s well known that all those stats are horrible at gauging defensive impact. IncelJam knows so little about the game that it’s downright embarrassing.

[3ball]

So

Bird
LBJ
Kawhi
Draymond
MJ
Kobe

Thanks

I have Bird #2 all-time

He was savvy, all-nba defender that averaged 2 steals, and therefore a 2-way assassin and versatile scorer - those are the best player types that result in maximization of teammates/brand/team ceiling, and that's why MJ, Bird, and Kobe are #1, 2, and 3 all-time..

The goat physical bigs are next (Wilt/Shaq), with the bird-feeders (magic) next in line ahead of the bird-fed (Kareem/Russell)… The team-hoppers/super-team seekers are next and round out the top 11 (Lebron/KD).. However, I stick Duncan ahead of Kareem/Russell because he was less bird-fed, aka didn't need great perimeter players to have great teams (and his carry-job in 03' was Jordan-esque).

But again, the defensive advanced stats are weakened because they favor defensive rebounders over actual defense.. Otoh, ortg and obpm are accurate stats as far as raw offensive production/efficiency because all the offensive metrics are covered in those stats.
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[SpaceJam2]

[QUOTE=3ball]I have Bird #2 all-time

He was savvy, all-nba defender that averaged 2 steals, and therefore a 2-way assassin and versatile scorer - those are the best player types that result in maximization of teammates/brand/team ceiling, and that's why MJ, Bird, and Kobe are #1, 2, and 3 all-time..

The goat physical bigs are next (Wilt/Shaq), with the bird-feeders (magic) next in line ahead of the bird-fed (Kareem/Russell)

[3ball]

# of players with 6 rings: 20
# of players with 6,000 playoff points: 1

how many have 6 rings as "the man"

waiting

[SpaceJam2]

how many have 6 rings as "the man"

waiting

Russell has 11 ... stop it

Rookie

[SpaceJam2]

Players with 6 rings: 13

Players with 7 rings: 9

Players with 8 rings: 6

Players with 10 rings: 2

Players with 11 rings: 1

Players with 6,000 playoff points: 1 (LeBron)

Got it?

[Rico2016]

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[nayte]

It's a dumb thread but I'm bored so who doesn't know that drtg doesn't carry across eras . It's common knowledge but anyways have fun crew

[RealSkipBayless]

Bron went 16 seasons without one.