Carmelo changes style, admits being a shot jacker wasn't working, improves

[longtime lurker]

Who cares about his 2nd option. That is completely irrelevant. Inefficient shot jacking is bad period. There is no way to deny this. Team ball is better for the entire team. This is a fundamental principle of basketball that has always and will always be true. Melo finally understood this and even admitted it and changed. Melo jacking up contested shot after contested shot is bad period. Team ball with nice ball movement results in better looks for everyone including Melo.

Of course his 2nd option matters because Melo carrying the scoring load is a better option than giving more shots to JR smith or Bargani. You make it seem like Melo's been the problem and you ignore the fact that Chandler is out an Bargani is the worst defensive anchor in the NBA. You make a retarded assumption that Melo supposedly playing "team ball" is the reason for the two game win streak, but it just so happens to coincide with them playing 2 sub par teams. He could be playing "team ball" against 2 superior teams and the Knicks could have lost both games.

[Blue&Orange]

Who cares about his 2nd option. That is completely irrelevant. Inefficient shot jacking is bad period. There is no way to deny this. Team ball is better for the entire team. This is a fundamental principle of basketball that has always and will always be true. Melo finally understood this and even admitted it and changed. Melo jacking up contested shot after contested shot is bad period. Team ball with nice ball movement results in better looks for everyone including Melo.

Why do idiots that don't watch games, feel entitled to give their opinion about the Knicks? Start of the season Melo was getting 3,4 guys on him because when he passed the ball to someone was either brick a wide open shot or passing on wide open shot. Some players didn't even want to shoot.

Pretty easy to play team ball when your teammates makes shots.

Melo did the same thing last year when Amare was playing like a Top10 per player, right before his injury. He was racking up assists.

[VIntageNOvel]

"I wanted to do something a little different to see if it worked," Anthony said. "Me scoring 30 wasn't working

your 30 wasnt working, but your 30 + kobe's 30 would, come to lakers

[Eric Cartman]

I have to applaud Melo on this one. Putting aside his ego for the better of the team is greatly appreciated. But everyone knows come playoff time when J.R. and Bargnani dissapear he will have to carry his team like a superstar does.

[Vertical-24]

I don't blame him at all for chucking up shots when Knicks' second option is Jr Smith... Hopefully they figure something out or not so Melo can come to the Lakers

For some reason, you make me mad.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I'm not a believer in the Knicks as anything more than a .500 team (which could be enough to win the Atlantic) but I 100% agree with the idea that Melo needed to shoot less. The other Knicks aren't close to his talent level but when he shoots at the rate he was shooting he is suppressing their production without improving his own. This change won't make NY a great team but it will make them better than the bottom of the EC.

[coin24]

Who cares about his 2nd option. That is completely irrelevant. Inefficient shot jacking is bad period. There is no way to deny this. Team ball is better for the entire team. This is a fundamental principle of basketball that has always and will always be true. Melo finally understood this and even admitted it and changed. Melo jacking up contested shot after contested shot is bad period. Team ball with nice ball movement results in better looks for everyone including Melo.

Better looks for who exactly? This isn't the stacked heat genius
There's no ray or mike miller to bail him out.

[ZenMaster]

Of course his 2nd option matters because Melo carrying the scoring load is a better option than giving more shots to JR smith or Bargani. You make it seem like Melo's been the problem and you ignore the fact that Chandler is out an Bargani is the worst defensive anchor in the NBA. You make a retarded assumption that Melo supposedly playing "team ball" is the reason for the two game win streak, but it just so happens to coincide with them playing 2 sub par teams. He could be playing "team ball" against 2 superior teams and the Knicks could have lost both games.

He could have played ISO/chuck ball and they could have lost even though it was against sub par teams. That scenario is what is a big part of their start where they've lost against a lot of bad teams.

You're missing a big part of basketball. It's not about "giving shots to JR and Bargnani" but about moving the ball and getting players makeable shots in good positions. It shouldn't be "hey you go 1on1 this time and I'll go the next, and after that it's Barganis turn"...

[Teanett]

they played brooklyn and orlando so who gives a shit?

lets wait til they play somebody who plays defense and see him not go into chuckmode again.

[longtime lurker]

He could have played ISO/chuck ball and they could have lost even though it was against sub par teams. That scenario is what is a big part of their start where they've lost against a lot of bad teams.

You're missing a big part of basketball. It's not about "giving shots to JR and Bargnani" but about moving the ball and getting players makeable shots in good positions. It shouldn't be "hey you go 1on1 this time and I'll go the next, and after that it's Barganis turn"...

I'm not talking about taking turns going one on one. JR Smith is shooting 35% and Bargani is shooting 46% on mostly open shots with little defensive pressure on them. A d-league player could provide more than Amare is giving the Knicks. The thing is there aren't any better options than Melo. They could spread the ball around and I'm guessing that Melo does pass the ball, but his teammates are clanking shots. Spreading the ball works when you have talent otherwise teams will figure out how to play you. I don't give a shit that the Knicks won against 2 lottery teams with Melo passing more and people are ignoring the defensive side of the equation that has more to do with why they're losing.

[secund2nun]

Of course his 2nd option matters because Melo carrying the scoring load is a better option than giving more shots to JR smith or Bargani. You make it seem like Melo's been the problem and you ignore the fact that Chandler is out an Bargani is the worst defensive anchor in the NBA. You make a retarded assumption that Melo supposedly playing "team ball" is the reason for the two game win streak, but it just so happens to coincide with them playing 2 sub par teams. He could be playing "team ball" against 2 superior teams and the Knicks could have lost both games.

That's not the way to look at it. Is Melo shooting a contested shot better than Bargani shooting an open or semi-open shot resulting from good ball movement? Definetely not. This is why Greg Popovich has such good teams even when Duncan is out. He is all about ball movement. Not this iso-trash that has corrupted the NBA.

If Melo was someone like Durant or Lebron you could get away with forcing the offense through him because those guys can give you 30 ppg on high efficiency (though even for those guys ball movement is better), but Melo cannot do that. He will give you 30 ppg on low efficiency that would be improved with teammates taking less contested shots. It's about knowing your limits.

You make a retarded omission by ignoring all of NBA history and Melo's own history. Melo has never and will never be able to give you 30 ppg on anything but bad efficiency. Iso- shot jacking by a guy who cannot handle that many shots per game is loser ball. Only rare players like Jordan, Lebron, Durant, Shaq etc can handle the scoring like that. Melo is leagues below those guys. He has the ability to be a good scorer if he plays within his limits. Would team ball for the Knicks beat Miami or Indy? No because those teams are much better, but it would keep it a lot closer than Iso chucking loser ball. Team ball would result NY improving and increase their chances of winning against every team and certainly increase their record.

[secund2nun]

they played brooklyn and orlando so who gives a shit?

lets wait til they play somebody who plays defense and see him not go into chuckmode again.

If he goes into chuck mode again then all progress is lost

[ripthekik]

andddddd it was over in 2 games.

[secund2nun]

Better looks for who exactly? This isn't the stacked heat genius
There's no ray or mike miller to bail him out.

Like I said....the NBA and it's fans have been corrupted by idolizing low IQ iso chuck ball. To say you need a great team to benefit from team ball over Iso chuck ball is literally laughable and ignoring the NBA's entire history. Team ball improves every team, whether great or bad.

Prime Kobe's chuck ball could not even win a playoff series without an elite front court.

[secund2nun]

He could have played ISO/chuck ball and they could have lost even though it was against sub par teams. That scenario is what is a big part of their start where they've lost against a lot of bad teams.

You're missing a big part of basketball. It's not about "giving shots to JR and Bargnani" but about moving the ball and getting players makeable shots in good positions. It shouldn't be "hey you go 1on1 this time and I'll go the next, and after that it's Barganis turn"...

Exactly. This iso-filth has corrupted the NBA. Everyone wants to be Jordan and carry the entire offense, but few have the talent to handle the scoring load like that.