The US Air campaign against ISIS thread.

[KevinNYC]

So the air war against ISIS is entering a new phase.

Key takeaways from Obama's speech seems to be

The US bombing will extend into Syria.
The basic plan seems to be the combination of US air power/intelligence gathering working with coalition of group troops from various countries/factions.

Who will join the coalition?
How can the politics of the coalition work?
Can we really roll ISIS back without US boots on the ground?

Way back in March 2003, General Petraeus asked the military historian who was with him this question. It was his comment on the incoherent strategy of the Iraq War and he saw it before it all went to shit. Still seems relevant today.

Tell me how this ends

[JohnFreeman]

It ends with the USA looking like idiots again

[gigantes]

shiny happy people, mofo!

[KevinNYC]

shiny happy people, mofo!

So Iraq formed a new government and kicked out Maliki. This was one of the conditions Obama set for US intervention. Because Maliki was sectarian and caused the sunnis to work with ISIS
But in the new government he is still one 3 VPs

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/08/world/...aq-government/

[KevinNYC]

Oceanic such a good album

Hey, I'm having a record burning in DC this weekend, if you want to hang out.

[KevinNYC]

Also ISIS is Al Qaeda.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/11/wo...sary.html?_r=0

The Obama administration said Wednesday that it needed no new approval from Congress to launch an open-ended air war in both Syria and Iraq against the group known as ISIS because the campaign is covered by the existing authorization to use military force against the perpetrators of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks — that is, Al Qaeda.

[KevinNYC]

The Kurds and the Iranians have already been part of this.

So far we have

Kurdish Peshmerga
Iranian forces
Saudi Arabia's on board at least for support
France - will join air strikes

The Syrian Rebels FSA has just reached an alliance with Kurdish group YPG to fight ISIS. They have been fighting each other quite recently. Actually, they are just two of 10 groups who have joined together including a Kurdish women's battalion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHrj-...ature=youtu.be

[oarabbus]

If it wasn't for the Iraq invasion there would be no ISIS today

Good going George W

[MMM]

Are we going to be introduced to you aliens once terrorism is defeated or greater reduced???

[dunksby]

Oceanic such a good album

[LJJ]

Any type of campaign that doesn't involve massively arming Assad, the Kurds and Iraq is going to be very ineffective.

You need stroops to come in and take advantage of the bombings. Those troops are the Syrian army, the Kurdish militias and the Iraqi army.

[Nick Young]

We should just do up Kurdistan like we do up Israel. The kurds seem alright and have been shit on by everyone around them for too long. Let's just hook the Kurds up, and peace out.

ISIS ain't no thing, Obama must be ruthless though.


Also, I hope all of these British assholes who 'want to come home' because it 'wasn't like we thought it would be' die in firebomb attacks
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-conflict.html


Let's do this! Good shit Obama, finally a US war I am hyped about.

[dude77]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-conflict.html
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wtf is this shit lol .. those are all traitors .. they want to come back home ???? my head's gonna fkn explode .. this isn't a game you @#%#s .. if these people 'come back home' it better be to face treason charges .. I don't wanna imagine the uk allowing these people back to live as normal citizens .. that's not possible right ?

[IcanzIIravor]

All I can think of is the black Bush speech of the coalition of the willing from the Chappelle show.

[dude77]

Up until a month ago they were the "good" guys. In fact Gordan Brown asked Parliament to vote for airstrikes against Assad so they could help out ISIS and their British Mujaheeden. Now that American and British oil interests are threatened in Kurdistan, these British Muslims are suddenly considered "evil"

You cant make this sh!t up. Pathetic.

good point .. the 'enemy' is always being changed around .. either way, these people were fighting with a group that is now known to have been kidnapping families, enslaving the women, raping them and even beheading children .. there's no going back for them(I would think)