Ricky Rubio...He Is Who We Thought He Was

[RRR3]

The Spanish version of Rondo.

At least Rubio can hit FTs.

[DaOldLion]

Nope...about the same.

The best players of the 60's would be just as great today. And send the best of any other era back to the 60's, and they would have been just as great, as well.

Of course, this topic is about Rubio, who is a below average, injury-plagued player in today's NBA, and would probably have been riding the bench, at best, in the 60's.

any sane fan would admit that the pace was sooo much faster back in the 60's which saw produced monstrous stats for the best players. You can't seriously believe that those stats would translate over to the modern NBA, especially the rebounding.

[LAZERUSS]

So all you can contend about Rubio is that Maravich was the better player? Way to go out on a limb.

Rubio would be throwing passes that would put those farmers in the hospital.

I won't even use Maravich, but instead, how about Ernie D?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY65sR4rvA0

Now, just how great was Ernie D's NBA career?

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Whether or not they need his "scoring" he still has to keep the defense honest. He's a guy any will play off of when he doesn't have the ball and that's a liability for everybody else on the team.

The fact is the Wolves are a much better team with him than with out him. It's hard to call him a "bust" when he is still a decent player, disappointment maybe fits better? A bust is Johnny Flynn or Hasheem Thabeet. Rubio's no star but he's not a scrub either.

[DaOldLion]

At least Rubio can hit FTs.

at least Rondo can shoot over 40% (14ppg on 48%; Rubios career high = 12 on 37%) and average averaged double digit assist

[game3524]

not even close, Rondo had and has so much more impact on the game and way better on offense

Not really.

Even at Rondo's peak, the Celtics overall were a poor offensive team. And that shouldn't happen when you are playing with guys like Pierce, Allen, and KG.

[LAZERUSS]

any sane fan would admit that the pace was sooo much faster back in the 60's which saw produced monstrous stats for the best players. You can't seriously believe that those stats would translate over to the modern NBA, especially the rebounding.

No one is claiming that the stats would be the same. BUT, greatness is greatness.

Kevin Love?

Jerry Lucas was Kevin Love long before Love was.

If Love could average 15 rpg in 36 mpg in the modern NBA, I have absolutely no doubt that Lucas would equal that, as well.

[DaOldLion]

The fact is the Wolves are a much better team with him than with out him. It's hard to call him a "bust" when he is still a decent player, disappointment maybe fits better? A bust is Johnny Flynn or Hasheem Thabeet. Rubio's no star but he's not a scrub either.

woopitty fuccing doo they are a perinial lottery team.. he's never even averaged 9+ assist per game so the thing he does best he's not even elite at and then he's a complete liability in every other category offensively. And he's not an all nba type defender to make up for this either.. dude will find his role off the bench with a good team eventually but he's an absolute joke of a starter for how hyped he was

[plowking]

People didn't seem to mind when Kidd and Iverson shot in the high 30% range.

If anything, Rubio manages it better by shooting less than both of them.

[LAZERUSS]

People didn't seem to mind when Kidd and Iverson shot in the high 30% range.

If anything, Rubio manages it better by shooting less than both of them.

Along with doing less at everything else, as well.

This guy is a bust.

[DaOldLion]

No one is claiming that the stats would be the same. BUT, greatness is greatness.

Kevin Love?

Jerry Lucas was Kevin Love long before Love was.

If Love could average 15 rpg in 36 mpg in the modern NBA, I have absolutely no doubt that Lucas would equal that, as well.

ok thats nice but not really what i'm talking about. nobody would be averaging that ridiculous 24+ rebounds or 40+ points, the game simply isn't played at a high enough pace for that to occur, all of their points would be coming off of 2pters save for a select few guys.

the competition was also lower back then compared to today. The first african american player to play in the NBA was only in 1950, so you had an entire generation of 10-18 year old black children who never even considered playing basketball as a serious money making profession. Back in the 1960's you had people holding 2nd jobs to make ends meet, it isn't like today where parents begin having their children train from 6 years old to be potential nba players..

[DaOldLion]

People didn't seem to mind when Kidd and Iverson shot in the high 30% range.

If anything, Rubio manages it better by shooting less than both of them.

those guys were also posting superior stats to Rubio and leading their teams to the NBA finals. What exactly is Rubio doing again?

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woopitty fuccing doo they are a perinial lottery team.. he's never even averaged 9+ assist per game so the thing he does best he's not even elite at and then he's a complete liability in every other category offensively. And he's not an all nba type defender to make up for this either.. dude will find his role off the bench with a good team eventually but he's an absolute joke of a starter for how hyped he was

Wolves with Wiggins and Towns won't be a lottery team for long. You can't blame him for being drafted by a team that was rebuiding. That's like saying Irving was a bad player before Lebron because he was on a perennial lottery team. Can't use that against him because no one is saying he has to be able to single handedly lead a team to the play offs to avoid being called a bust. Like I said he isn't a great player but he's not terrible either.

[LAZERUSS]

ok thats nice but not really what i'm talking about. nobody would be averaging that ridiculous 24+ rebounds or 40+ points, the game simply isn't played at a high enough pace for that to occur, all of their points would be coming off of 2pters save for a select few guys.

the competition was also lower back then compared to today. The first african american player to play in the NBA was only in 1950, so you had an entire generation of 10-18 year old black children who never even considered playing basketball as a serious money making profession. Back in the 1960's you had people holding 2nd jobs to make ends meet, it isn't like today where parents begin having their children train from 6 years old to be potential nba players..

And yet, find me a season in the 60's in which the best players dominated, and I will show you their performances from the year before, and the year after.

My point is...a 39 year old KAJ was carpet-bombing Hakeem and Ewing in the 80's. He had more problems with an old Wilt and an aging Thurmond, and was abused by a peak Moses.

Again, find me the EXACT year in which the NBA suddenly went into the "modern era."

[FKAri]

Nope...about the same.

The best players of the 60's would be just as great today. And send the best of any other era back to the 60's, and they would have been just as great, as well.

Of course, this topic is about Rubio, who is a below average, injury-plagued player in today's NBA, and would probably have been riding the bench, at best, in the 60's.

You mean straight time travel?

Jordan would be a fkin God in the 50's. Heck he would've been so good he would've probably killed the sport's popularity by making a mockery of it.