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    Default Bellamy vs. Wilt Career H2H's

    Thanks to nbastats.net, more-and-more information has been forth-coming, and while there is still much more research that is being done, we have some substantial numbers on the 89 career regular season H2H games, and the 10 playoff H2H games, involving the 6-11 HOFer Walt Bellamy, and Wilt Chamberlain.

    Also interesting is the fact that there is now some solid stats regarding FG%'s, especially from the 66-67 seasons, on.

    Here we go:

    61-62 season. Bellamy averaged 31.6 ppg, 19.0 rpg, and shot .519 from the field against the entire NBA. Chamberlain averaged 50.4 ppg, 25.7 rpg, and shot .506 against the league.

    10 H2H games:

    Bellamy: 34.7 ppg, 19.0 rpg (9 known games), and no known FG% games
    Wilt: 52.7 ppg, 27.6 rpg, .501 FG%

    Chamberlain outscored Bellamy in 9 of those 10 H2H's. Bellamy did have high games of 44, 45, and 47 points, but Wilt outscored him in all three. Wilt's high games were 50, 51, 55, 55, 61, 61, and 73 points.

    Wilt outrebounded Bellamy in their known games, 8-1. Bellamy had six games of 20+, with a high of 27. Chamberlain had seven games of 20+, including five games of 30+, with highs of 36, 36, and 38 rebounds.

    Incidently, in Wilt's 73 point game, he also grabbed 36 rebounds, and shot 29-48 from the field, to Bellamy's 35 points and 23 rebounds. Imagine scoring 35 points in a game, and getting outscored by 38 points!

    And for those that scoff at Wilt's defense, in 10 H2H games with Russell, Bellamy averaged 33.2 ppg, and 20.9 rpg (Russell averaged 21.3 ppg, 17.2 rpg.) He outscored Russell in 9 of their 10 games, and outrebounded Russell by a 7-2 margin (in their nine known games.) Included were games of 41 and 47 points against Russell.


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    62-63.

    Bellamy averaged 27.9 ppg, 16.4 rpg, and shot .527 from the field against the NBA.

    Wilt averaged 44.8 ppg, 24.3 rpg, and shot .528 against the league.


    10 H2H's:

    Bellamy: 29.7 ppg, 19.6 rpg (7 known games), and no known FG% games.
    Wilt: 42.8 ppg, 25.1 rpg (9 known), .544 FG% (7 known games)

    Amazingly, Wilt held a 9-0-1 scoring margin in those 10 games. Bellamy had games of 37, 38, and 46 points against Chamberlain, while Wilt had games of 50, 51, 54, and 57 against Bells.

    Wilt also enjoyed a 6-0-1 margin on the glass in their known H2H's. Bellamy had high games of 21, 21, 21, 21, and 22 rebounds, while Chamberlain's highs were 27, 28, and 37.

    As a comparison, in 9 H2H games in 62-63, Bellamy averaged 30.3 ppg, and 19.0 rpg against Russell (Russell was at 16.6 ppg, 22.0 rpg, and on a .314 FG% in his known H2H's.) Overall, Bellamy held a 9-0 scoring margin over Russell, and the two went 2-2-1 in their known rebounding H2H's.


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    63-64:

    Bellamy averaged 27.0 ppg, 17.0 rpg, and shot .513 against the NBA.
    Chamberlain averaged 36.9 ppg, 22.3 rpg, and shot .524 from the floor against the league.

    10 H2H's:

    Bellamy: 23.3 ppg, 15.2 rpg (9 known), no known FG% games
    Wilt: 35.0 ppg, 21.3 rpg, .511 FG% (4 known games.)

    Again, Wilt held a staggering 9-1 scoring margin, which included three straight beat-downs by margins of 49-36, 43-19, and an unfathomable 44-5 margin (Bellamy did have 16 rebounds in that game.) Bellamy had two games of 36 against Wilt.

    Chamberlain held a 7-2 margin in rebounding H2H's. Bellamy's high game was 22, while Wilt had a high game of 34.

    BTW, Bellamy averaged 24.9 ppg against Russell, which included a 45 point game.


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    64-65.

    Bellamy averaged 24.8 ppg, 14.6 rpg, and on a .509 FG% against the NBA.
    Wilt averaged 34.7 ppg, 22.9 rpg, and shot .510 against the league.

    9 H2H games:

    Bellamy: 26.3 ppg, 14.1 rpg (7 known), no known FG% games
    Wilt: 38.3 ppg, 21.7 rpg (8 known games), and on a .547 FG% (8 known)

    Wilt held a 7-2 scoring margin over Bellamy. Bellamy had 4 games of 30+ against Wilt, with a high of 37. Chamberlain had highs of 40, 43, 51, 53, and 56 points against Bellamy.

    Wilt won the known rebounding H2H's by a 5-1 margin. Bellamy's high game against Wilt was 21, while Chamberlain had highs of 28, 28, and 29.

    BTW, Bellamy averaged 25.8 ppg and 15.8 rpg against Russell.
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    Do you have Zelmo Beaty stats? Most underrated center of the 60s.

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    65-66.

    Bellamy, playing alongside Willis Reed, averaged 22.8 ppg, 15.7 rpg, and shot .506.
    Wilt averaged 33.5 ppg, 24.6 rpg, and shot .540 from the field against the league.

    11 H2H games:

    Bellamy: 25.2 ppg, 16.4 rpg, and no known FG% games
    Wilt: 33.0 ppg, 19.8 rpg, .565 FG% (every game BTW)

    Chamberlain held a 9-1-1 scoring margin. Bellamy had games of 36 and 39 points. Wilt had highs of 37, 38, and 50 points.

    Wilt won the rebounding battles by a 9-2 margin. Bellamy had high games of 22 and 24 rebounds. Wilt had highs of 25 and 26 rebounds.


    BTW, Bellamy averaged 23.8 ppg, 17.8 rpg, and shot .476 in his 9 known H2H's with Russell.


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    Bellamy was white doe, right?

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    Off topic, but today I met a lady that met Wilt Chamberlain in person. She was a big Miami Heat fan, she's originally from Miami. Than she asked me who I thought was the best player ever. I said Wilt Chamberlain and that is when she told me the story of how she met him once. She was a waitress and Wilt came in to eat. It wasn't her table but she talked the other waitress into letting her wait Wilt's table. She told me how he was huge, an incredible physical specimen. She didn't talk to him...probably shyness, but he said thank you to her after the meal. This was during his playing days. I thought that so cool. She actually met Wilt.

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    66-67 season.

    Bellamy averaged 19.0 ppg, 13.5 rpg, and shot .521 from the field (and #2 in the league.)

    Wilt averaged 24.1 ppg, 24.2 rpg, and shot .683 from the field against the NBA (and 7.8 apg, as well.)


    This is where is gets even more interesting. nbastats.net now has many of Bellamy's FG% games against Wilt.

    9 H2H's:

    Bellamy: 23.2 ppg, 15.9 rpg, and shot .449 (7 known games.)
    Wilt: 22.7 ppg, 25.7 rpg, and on a .709 FG%.

    Even with Bellamy finally outscoring Wilt over a course of a full season (and being badly outshot from the field in the process), Chamberlain still held a 5-3-1 scoring margin. Bellamy's high game was 34 points (on 14-26 shooting), while Wilt's high game was 35 (on 15-18 shooting.)

    Chamberlain held a 7-0 margin in known rebounding H2H's. Bellamy's high game was 22. Wilt had highs of 30 and 33 (outrebounding Bellamy by margins of 33-17 and 30-9 in those two games.)

    BTW, Bellamy averaged 18.9 ppg in his nine H2H's with Russell, and in the three known games, he shot .513 from the floor against him.

    As a sidenote, Chamberlain and Thurmond went H2H in six games, and Wilt outscored Thurmond by a 20.8 ppg to 13.0 ppg margin. He also shot a staggering .633 from the field in those six H2H's with Thurmond. Meanwhile, in the four known games, Chamberlain held Thurmond to a .308 FG%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psileas
    Bellamy was white doe, right?
    And 6-5 too.

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    67-68 season.

    Bellamy averaged 16.7 ppg, 11.7 rpg, and shot .541 from the field against the NBA.
    Chamberlain averaged 24.3 ppg, 23.8 rpg, and shot .595 against the league.

    8 Regular Season H2H's:

    Bellamy: 20.6 ppg, 15.8 rpg, and on a .451 FG% (7 known)
    Wilt: 22.7 ppg, 20.5 rpg, and on a .586 FG%.

    Chamberlain held a slight 4-3-1 scoring margin. Bellamy's high game was 30 points. Wilt's high was 27 points. Wilt owned Bellamy on the glass, 7-1. Bellamy's high game was 21 rebounds, while Wilt had six games of 20+, with highs of 26 and 27 rebounds.

    BTW, Bellamy averaged 14.8 ppg in his 8 H2H's with Russell, and in the known four, he shot .429 from the field.


    67-68 Playoffs. 6 H2H's:

    Bellamy: 20.0 ppg, 16.0 rpg, and on a .421 FG%
    Wilt: 25.5 ppg, 24.1 rpg, and on a .584 FG%.

    Wilt and Bellamy tied 3-3 in scoring, but Wilt held a large margin in his high games, including a 37 point, 29 rebound, 17-29 FG/FGA game in which he held Bellamy to 14 points, 15 rebounds, and 4-14 shooting. Wilt won the rebounding H2H's by a 5-0-1 margin. Bellamy's high game was 22, while Wilt had games of 24, 27, 27, and 29 rebounds. BTW, Chamberlain led BOTH teams in scoring, rebounding, assists, and FG%.

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    Heard Bellamy was a terrible defender.

    Terrible because in addition of not having the adequate skill to defend, he didn't have the effort either. Kinda like Nash if Nash didn't give any effort.

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    68-69 season.

    Bellamy averaged 17.4 ppg, 12.5 rpg, and shot .510 from the field against the NBA.
    Chamberlain averaged 20.5 ppg, 21.1 rpg, and shot .583 from the floor against the league.

    9 H2H's:

    Bellamy: 19.1 ppg, 15.7 rpg (7 known), .433 FG% (4 known)
    Wilt: 23.2 ppg, 22.3 rpg (8 known), .745 FG% (8 known)

    Wilt won the scoring battles, 7-2. Bellamy's high game was 24 points. Wilt had highs of 29 and 34 points (on 14-14 from the field BTW.)

    Chamberlain won the rebounding H2H's by a 5-1 margin in their six known H2H's. Bellamy did have games of 21, 21, and even 28 rebounds. Wilt's highs were 25, 25, 27, and 27.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamgine
    Heard Bellamy was a terrible defender.

    Terrible because in addition of not having the adequate skill to defend, he didn't have the effort either. Kinda like Nash if Nash didn't give any effort.
    He may have been a relatively poor defender, but at his peak, Bellamy was plastering a prime Russell on the offensive end.

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    69-70.

    Wilt blew out his knee in the ninth game of the season, and did not face Bellamy in the regular season.

    Chamberlain came back only a few months after major knee surgery, and led his Lakers to a 4-0 series romp over Bellamy's Hawks...albeit, in a poor series for Chamberlain. Perhaps the worst playoff series of his career.

    Bellamy: 20.0 ppg, 15.5 rpg, and no known FG% games.
    Wilt: 17.3 ppg, 22.0 rpg, and on a .413 FG% (!)

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