NBA choking rating

[Miller for 3]

Hakeem = (1+(-4.1)+(-6.2)-2)= -11.3

[salwan]

Rajon Rondo 1 + (-3.4) + (-0.5) - 1 = -3.9

[red1]

Deuce I like the concept but I hate your formula. Why does a finals loss count against you without context?

[Miller for 3]

Hondo =(0+ (-1.2)+(-.9)-8= -10.1

[fpliii]

West: 9 + (27.0-29.1) + (27.0-30.5) - 1 = 2.4
Reggie: 1 + (18.3-20.6) + (18.2-24.3) - 0 = -7.4
Ray Allen: 1 + (18.9-17.0) + (18.9-14.9) - 2 = 4.9

[Miller for 3]

Deuce I like the concept but I hate your formula. Why does a finals loss count against you without context?

Agreed. Lebron in 07 for instanced should be a -4. Got swept and destroyed with a stacked supporting cast that won 75% of their games that Lebron did not dress. Boobie carried them into the Finals with his epic game 6, only to have Lebron choke and ruin his legacy.

[Miller for 3]

West: 9 + (27.0-29.1) + (27.0-30.5) - 1 = 2.4
Reggie: 1 + (18.3-20.6) + (18.2-24.3) - 0 = -7.4
Ray Allen: 1 + (18.9-17.0) + (18.9-14.9) - 2 = 4.9

Reggie da GOAT.

Even with 9 Finals losses West doesn't come out too bad, beast

[Deuce Bigalow]

I think playoff series losses with HCA would be a good thing to add.

Kareem 35-5 in series with HCA
Russell 22-1 in series with HCA
Magic 29-3 in series with HCA
Bird 24-7 in series with HCA
Wilt 13-5 in series with HCA
Hakeem 9-2 in series with HCA and Lost with Same Record in 1993 at 55-27 against Seattle and in 1999 at 31-19 against LA. Thus he is 9-4 in Series with Same Record/HCA

I don't know how many HCA series Karl Malone, Oscar, Baylor, and Lebron lost though. Anyone know?

[Young X]

^Jordan was 24-0 with HCA

[Young X]

Bron is 24-3 with HCA. Pretty good.

[Rocketswin2013]

If somebody would really account everything and make this a legit stat it would be better than any advanced stat created.

[Deuce Bigalow]

rebounds? assists? field goal %? Even if we're just talking stats, there's more than just ppg. Plus, I would include "amount of first round or second round exits" as a factor. Choking is not exclusive to the Finals.

That would be cool but would take a long time to find out.

Best choking formula would be: Losses with HCA - Finals losses - playoff ppg drop - finals ppg drop - playoff rpg drop - finals rpg drop - playoff apg drop - finals apg drop - playoff fg% drop - finals fg% drop - playoff ft% drop - finals ft% drop

That's a long formula though

[fpliii]

Wade: 1 + (24.4-23.7) + (24.4-25.7) - 3 = -2.6
Parker: 1 + (17.1-19.1) + (17.1-16.2) - 3 = -3.1
Pierce: 1 + (21.3-20.9) + (21.3-19.8) - 1 = 1.9
Dr. J: 3 + (22.0-21.9) + (22.0-25.5) - 1 = -1.4
Pippen: 0 + (16.1-17.5) + (16.1-19.0) - 6 = -10.3
Stockton: 2 + (13.1-13.4) + (13.1-12.3) - 0 = 2.5
Billups: 1 + (15.2-17.3) + (15.2-20.8) - 1 = -7.7
Barkley: 1 + (22.1-23.0) + (22.1-27.3) - 0 = -5.1
Isiah: 1 + (19.2-22.6) + (19.2-20.4) - 2 = -5.6
Kidd: 2 + (12.6-12.9) + (12.6-15.4) - 1 = -2.1
Iverson: 1 + (26.7-29.7) + (26.7-35.6) - 0 = -10.9
Moses: 1 + (20.3-22.1) + (20.3-23.6) - 1 = -5.1
Havlicek: 0 + (20.8-22.0) + (20.8-21.7) - 8 = -10.1
Mikan: 0 + (23.1-24.0) + (23.1-23.9) - 5 = -6.7
Barry: 1 - (23.2-24.8) + (23.2-36.3) - 1 = -11.5
Walton: 1 - (13.3-10.8) + (13.3-13.3) - 2 = -3.5

Okay, bored of this now lol.

[9erempiree]

Good formula and I will use it. I think it is valid. It comes as no suprise that the players mentioned are chokers.

[fpliii]

I think playoff series losses with HCA would be a good thing to add.


I don't know how many HCA series Karl Malone, Oscar, Baylor, and Lebron lost though. Anyone know?

Russell's only loss is that Finals when he was crippled. Damn.

Kobe and Duncan would do well in that measure as well.