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NBA Legend
Re: Will Wiggins ROTY award be considered legit?
Who is currently challenging and or threatening Wiggins for ROY award?
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15x all nba legend
Re: Will Wiggins ROTY award be considered legit?
Originally Posted by Droid101
No. Melo led a team to the playoffs in an infinitely tougher conference.
yup, Melo also scored more and rebounded more, and was more efficient shooting the ball
Melo was robbed ROTY
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7-time NBA All-Star
Re: Will Wiggins ROTY award be considered legit?
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
yup, Melo also scored more and rebounded more, and was more efficient shooting the ball
Melo was robbed ROTY
Bu bu bu bu "Chosen One!!"
ESPN's agenda was obvious day one.
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NBA Superstar
Re: Will Wiggins ROTY award be considered legit?
Originally Posted by Droid101
Bu bu bu bu "Chosen One!!"
ESPN's agenda was obvious day one.
Those pieces of shit should be behind bars.
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I don't get picked last at the park anymore
Re: Will Wiggins ROTY award be considered legit?
The award he'll likely win is still legitimate but won't hold as much weight due to his main competitors (Parker, Embiid, and perhaps Randle) being injured. For example, Jabari Parker would be a legitimate contender after averaging 12.3 points and 5.5 rebounds, with a 14.6 PER, 52.7 TS%, and an impressive defensive rating of 103 before a torn ACL. Still, besides Parker, there doesn't seem to be anyone else (that has played) that can pose a legitimate threat to Wiggins receiving the award.
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with God-given ass
Re: Will Wiggins ROTY award be considered legit?
Originally Posted by Hey Yo
Even if he avg. that for the season, he would still be the front runner cause everyone else is hurt.
But he's not... You're going to penalize someone playing well just because his competition (not even in the sense of during the game vs him) isn't healthy?
I doubt Wiggins was going on ESPN looking at box scores, seeing Parker drop 20, and thinking he needed to go for 21 next game.
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TX via OR
Re: Will Wiggins ROTY award be considered legit?
Um...
When you look in the history books it's just going to say ROTY: Andre Wiggins.
It's not gonna say "ROTY: Andrew Wiggins *because his rookie class was weak and his competitors were hurt."
So as far as reality is concerned, if he wins ROY it will hold the same weight and be the exact same as all of those before him.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Will Wiggins ROTY award be considered legit?
Originally Posted by Droid101
No. Melo led a team to the playoffs in an infinitely tougher conference.
Because Carmelo just joined the team...they didn't add Andre Miller, Voshon Leonard and have Marcus Camby play 72 games (as opposed to 29 the previous year) or anything. Pathetic Kobe stans are pathetic.
Keep sucking that Melo dick doe.
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Local High School Star
Re: Will Wiggins ROTY award be considered legit?
No one will care in a few years. No one mentions that Griffin was injured when Evans won the award.
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15x all nba legend
Re: Will Wiggins ROTY award be considered legit?
Originally Posted by Smoke117
Because Carmelo just joined the team...they didn't add Andre Miller, Voshon Leonard and have Marcus Camby play 72 games (as opposed to 29 the previous year) or anything. Pathetic Kobe stans are pathetic.
Keep sucking that Melo dick doe.
Miller made his playoff debut when he joined Melo
Voshon Leonard and Camby? Okay..
Bran had Big Z (who was an all star in 03) and Carlos Boozer and that combo> Camby and Leonard..
Camby averaged 8/10/3.. Big Z put up 15/8/3 and played more games
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Will Wiggins ROTY award be considered legit?
Originally Posted by Smoke117
Because Carmelo just joined the team...they didn't add Andre Miller, Voshon Leonard and have Marcus Camby play 72 games (as opposed to 29 the previous year) or anything. Pathetic Kobe stans are pathetic.
Keep sucking that Melo dick doe.
Some people can't help up but bring LeBron. And on an award he won 11 years ago too lol. Let's try to keep this on topic at the least though.
Awards don't have asterisks or legitmacy controversy because of injuries. Injuries happen every single year. The player pool in the league is different every year. And actually if every rookie was still in, it's likely Wiggins would have the best stats right after his recent play. He was pretty much neck and neck with Parker statistically (save for rebounds and fg%) before he went down, and Wiggins has gone up 4 ppg since then. Parker was inevitably going to improve and bring his stats up as well, but I don't think he was going to go on a streak of this magnitude. Other players like Randle and Gordon to be honest I never really saw winning ROY.
The last guy people can argue is Embiid, and none of us really know what could've happened there, but even if he put up 20/10 (which wasn't going to happen right away) that's really only one guy that would've for sure beat Wiggins. Hardly a reason to call the entire award illegitimate.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Will Wiggins ROTY award be considered legit?
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
Miller made his playoff debut when he joined Melo
Voshon Leonard and Camby? Okay..
Bran had Big Z (who was an all star in 03) and Carlos Boozer and that combo> Camby and Leonard..
Camby averaged 8/10/3.. Big Z put up 15/8/3 and played more games
Right...they made the playoffs on Carmelos 21 points on 18 shots and shitty defense. It wasn't like Andre Miller led the team in winshares...oh wait. That team doesn't sniff the playoffs without Miller. Stick to kobe, clown.
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Re: Will Wiggins ROTY award be considered legit?
Is wiggins still growing? he's looking even taller, looks 6'9
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15x all nba legend
Re: Will Wiggins ROTY award be considered legit?
Originally Posted by Smoke117
Right...they made the playoffs on Carmelos 21 points on 18 shots and shitty defense. It wasn't like Andre Miller led the team in winshares...oh wait. That team doesn't sniff the playoffs without Miller. Stick to kobe, clown.
oh man win shares, can't argue against that.. that stat is so concrete.
no wonder Melo spent the rest of his career missing the playoffs or not advancing through the first round while Miller has only missed the playoffs once in his career
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Will Wiggins ROTY award be considered legit?
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
oh man win shares, can't argue against that.. that stat is so concrete.
no wonder Melo spent the rest of his career missing the playoffs or not advancing through the first round while Miller has only missed the playoffs once in his career
What am I going to say? Use the eye test? (for 12 years ago) You are a kobe stan anyway...your eyes are ****ed. What could you possibly see? The fact of the matter is if you think Melo carried the Nuggets to the playoffs his rookie season you are just a moron and not worth anymore of my time. If this was all just to bring Lebron down...fair enough, but you failed miserably. Move on.
Last edited by Smoke117; 01-26-2015 at 11:14 PM.
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