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    Default Re: Charles Barkley Turns 50

    Quote Originally Posted by bukowski81
    I love Barkley, and although i don think he is the best power forward ever, he does have a case.
    Case? Maybe.

    The OP insisted he is the best when being the best at that position didn't produce anything for the team.

    It seems that Oakley could have played the same role as Barkley.

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    Default Re: Charles Barkley Turns 50

    I'd say Barkley was the best offensive power forward to play, and one of the best offensive players ever, but defense is what forces me to put Duncan on top.

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    Default Re: Charles Barkley Turns 50

    Quote Originally Posted by 9erempiree
    Case? Maybe.

    The OP insisted he is the best when being the best at that position didn't produce anything for the team.

    It seems that Oakley could have played the same role as Barkley.
    Barkley is a much much better player than Oakley

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    Default Re: Charles Barkley Turns 50

    Quote Originally Posted by DatAsh
    I'd say Barkley was the best offensive power forward to play, and one of the best offensive players ever, but defense is what forces me to put Duncan on top.
    [B]That Sounds More Like a Fan With Some Brains . True Barkley Wasn

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    [QUOTE=Round Mound][B]That Sounds More Like a Fan With Some Brains . True Barkley Wasn

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    I can't believe it took me to the third page to realise I was reading two of the worst people in the world arguing with each other.

    I hate myself.

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    Default Re: Charles Barkley Turns 50

    Quote Originally Posted by 9erempiree
    Better passer than Duncan? Yes.

    Better rebounder? No way. Duncan is a much better rebounder than Charles.


    [B]What
    Last edited by Round Mound; 03-25-2013 at 03:34 PM.

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    Default Re: Charles Barkley Turns 50

    That's cool and all, but Tim Duncan is still the GOAT PF.

    Quote Originally Posted by brandonislegend
    People that have to use statistical proof are in denial, watch the games it's like saying statically Westbrook is the best PG in the game when in reality cp3 and tony parker are on another level.
    Yeah, the bold is just stupid too. Infact, I don't even think Westbrook's stats are better than Paul's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernie Nips
    I can't believe it took me to the third page to realise I was reading two of the worst people in the world arguing with each other.

    I hate myself.

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    Default Re: Charles Barkley Turns 50

    Barkley was a Better Scorer, Post Player, Shooter, Rebounder, Passer and Floor Defender.

    Duncan Was a Better Rim Protector, Post Defender and Shot Blocker

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    Default Re: Charles Barkley Turns 50

    Quote Originally Posted by 9erempiree
    Barkley is hard to judge as a PF. He put up great stats for the future generations to read.

    Those that have seen him play can say he failed the eye-test. Watching him play it seems like he puts up empty stats. Was never a good leader and wasn't very clutch.

    The man played for 3 freaking teams, unheard of for anyone that is considered the best.

    This is why I don't value Shaq much, he played for 6 teams. That's almost journeyman status.
    So you credit Barkley for playing for multiple teams and discredit shaq for playing for multiple teams in the same post. Troll fail

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    Default Re: Charles Barkley Turns 50

    More advanced stats:

    According to Statistical Plus/Minus, Barkley would have the best prime of a PF, ahead of Duncan, Malone, Garnett and Dirk

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=1654


    I still believe his playstyle was too self-centred. I honestly think he did not make the Dream Team better, even though he scored the most points.

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    Default Re: Charles Barkley Turns 50

    Quote Originally Posted by 9erempiree
    Decent help defender he was but he lacked the quickness to actually have to cover quicker guys and he was short for a player his height and couldn't guard the true PF.

    That's why I said Barkley is like an anomaly. Very hard to judge him but by no means is he even considered a GOAT PF.
    What in the f*** does this mean?

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    Default Re: Charles Barkley Turns 50

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertdeMeijer
    More advanced stats:

    According to Statistical Plus/Minus, Barkley would have the best prime of a PF, ahead of Duncan, Malone, Garnett and Dirk

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=1654


    I still believe his playstyle was too self-centred. I honestly think he did not make the Dream Team better, even though he scored the most points.
    He Lead the Team in Scoring With Few Attempts Per Game and a 70% FG and in Dream Team 2 He Lead them Again in Points, FG% (81% FG) and Rebounding.

    How Can a Player that Shoots Just 14-16 FGAs PG Be Self Centered?

    Kobe, Jordan, Wilkins, Iverson etc Where More Self Centered by a Large Margin! They Shot Like 20-25 FGAs PG!

    He is Just the Best PF of his Time. His Rebounding and Play-Making Off the Post and Away From It, Was Asoume Too.
    Last edited by Round Mound; 03-25-2013 at 10:24 PM.

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    Default Re: Charles Barkley Turns 50

    One of the most overrated players ever.

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    Default Re: Charles Barkley Turns 50

    Quote Originally Posted by bootsy
    One of the most overrated players ever.
    All Advanced Stats Have Barkley in The Top 7 All Time Among Great Players, Yet 20 Year Old Kids Locate Him as a Top 20 Player. Infact, Its the Other Way Around, THEE MOST UNDERRATED GREAT OF ALL TIME

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